It's Joey, not Jerry.

I am not suprised by the story one bit.  I bet Porters pit bulls are crazy as he is.

dumbest statement you have ever made Ninja....by that same reasoning....everyone who has a child should be burned at the stake because some kids turned out bad...I agree they aren't for everyone, but I know many Pit Bulls that are sweet and loving dogs...don't punish the breed because ignorant people buy them.

My family raised Dobermans, have had them for years and have heard the same thing about them, which is completely off....great dog...great breed...but not for stupid people.

The problem with Pit Bulls are the wussy phuckers who fight them, most of them are gutless wonders that couldn't fight thier way out of a wet paper bag, so they want a "tough" dog. Any more the gangs are big into fighting them...but consider the owners, bunch of ignorant turds who can't fight and can't shoot.

PS- I love dobermans, they are beautiful animals. Nothing at all like a Pit Bull. A Doberman has more reason at 3 months than a Pit Bull would ever develop. A Doberman can be trained to kill, but left untrained they are pretty tame. This isn't the case for Pits.

Pit Bulls have a purpose, but that does not mean any retard should be able to bring one into a city, or even a sparsly populated area.

They should either be severly restricted or banned outright (which is already happening). Not to mention that the frequencey, and ferocity of attacks dictates that only the TRULY STUPID would ever get one in the first place.

I don't hate the animal any more than a shark or any other deadly creature. I hate the dim-witted redneck that would bring a known problem to their neighbors doorstep.

you are correct that back yard breeders and idiots have inbreed these dogs to the point of ignorancy, once again...look to the breeders not the breed. Throughout the 70s and 80s the same type of idiots almost ruined Dobies also...thats why there are certified pups now....certified to be free from the large variety of diseases that have cropped up in the breed, hip displaysia...the woobles ect.

You are also correct that this breed tends towards aggressiveness, but the aggressiveness towards people was breed into them in recent years, by the above idiots. Before that they were just overaggressive towards other animals. It was what they were breed for, I'm not trying to defend thier reputation, unfortunately it is becoming more and more well deserved.

 But on the other hand, i know people who have had Pit Bulls for over 20 years, never had a mean one, big loving couch cabbages. In fact i have 2 different friends, both of them come over to watch football all the time, they bring the dogs and i let them out with mine in the back yard for hours...I would trust both of their dogs without a qualm, they reflect thier owners. (My other dog is a Shepherd/Lab/Wolf mix I inherited.....while I wont speak of full-blooded wolves, my part wolf is the smartest and easiest to live with dog I've ever owned....makes a great house dog!) I also have a friend who has the meanest damn beagle you have ever seen...bite you in a second...so will the owner. It IS the owners not the breed.

But you shouldn't lump them altogether, it would be like saying all Bears fans sound like the Saturday night skit....or that all Packer fans are fat and ignorant......wait a minute...poor choice of example! LOL

Maybe i am oversensative over this matter due to the one idiot Republican Senator in Northern Ill. trying to push through this dangerous breed law. He lumped Dobies, Rots, and Pit Bulls in together with bans on them, which is complete bullsh*t. Dobies only accounted for .9% of the dog bites last year...Labs were 7.7%....Chows were 8.5%...German Shepherds 12%...none of those were listed, uninformed people making uninformed laws....couldn't get home insurance last year due to the fact i owned a Dobie (dangerous breed law) had to get it out of state. Pretty soon you will only be able to own Pomeranians or pugs.

 Does the breed need cleaned up....absolutely. Should only be allowed to be bred by licensed breeders, no breedable dogs should be sold to the public, all should be neutered or fixed, failure to do so...felony. I am all for that kind of thing. Fighting them should be class X felony...they are the ones really screwing them up. But you start eradicating the breed what do you do when they come for yours?

I think I now know why Porter owns a PitBull. He wanted have something in the house with nicer teeth than the wife. WTF ? Dont the Steelers have a Dental plan?

I agree...I have no use for a pit bull. The ones that belong to my friends were rescued as puppies, treated well and act the same, the same as any other dog.

many people have no need for a firearm, but they shouldn't be able to affect others owning them. It is one in the same question.....it breaks down to a question of personal freedom, a guy should be able to own an ugly, useless dog (or in Porters case....wife) if he wants to as long as it isn't a danger to other people, and many of the Pits i know are NOT a dnager to others. Should every Tom, Dick and Harry own a gun....NO...should every moron who can't buy pants that won't fall off his azz own and breed a pitbull...NO

Should any breed of animal or human be utterly destroyed from the face of the earth...NO

The gun analogy is dead on....if guns can't one day escape your gun case and kill the neighbors kids...why do we lock them up?...do the same with the dogs and there is no problem...One again I am not a proponent of the breed, but it goes back to the same old slippery slope, once they outlaw that breed what breed is next?

You outlaw Pits and they wipe Pits from the face of the earth, you think that will stop people from fighting dogs? hell no....next they will start fighting Rots and shepherds....Malumutes (which they fight in alaska) Dobies, Danes, even Labs...any big dog. Once those breeds are used for fighting they will be bred for fighting....and you're right back at square one outlawing all big breeds.....then the medium ones....the problem is with the people who fight them, you can selectively breed aggression into any breed, and therefore make it dangerous

Fuk that.....to many rules already. Just make the penalty phase real fukn harsh if your little kujo mames some innocent person...or horse. But enough with the dog.....what about snaggletooth? Is that her?  Porters wife ?

If it is....I am surprised GoBears hasnt already labeled her from Green Bay

but the question remains Erick, where do you draw the line?...Like I said, kill all Pit Bulls and they will fight other breeds.....No doubt about it, and once they ruin the next breed and the next, what do you do, make it illegal to own any large dog?...then they will fight little ones

I'm all for restricted ownership, like I said make it illegal to sell a breedable Pit Bull to anyone but a licensed breeder, make it a class X to fight any dog.

PS Erick.....the roscoe I have for home protection....Ruger Security Six .357 4 inch barrel...and the motherphucker barks all the time, and if the need to ventilate someone comes up, i will garrantee that it will leave at LEAST one big pile of sh*t on my carpet, if not a couple. I don't need dogs for home protection, I have them because i enjoy thier company...no need or use for a mean dog

GoBearsGalason wrote:

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I have several guard dogs

Benelli super black eagle

Beretta 92 fs

Bushmaster varminter with a leupold mark 4 40mm scope

They too have been trained to not sh1t on my carpet.

 

And in regards to what you would do with all the existing dogs? Send those motherfukers to Iran to roam wild. All of them. (most will be eaten on a pita) but not before taking out some of those *******s first. Drop some in Iraq too. And Afghanistan. I think it would be a perfect life for them. Hunting dirty animals....it's their natural instinct right?

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I used to be able to collect awsome guns when I was an Intel Op, and I lived in Texas.

I had a FN P-90, which looked like something out of a sci-fi film. Awsome weapon.

I live in Mass. now and it's so liberal you can't own a sharp steak knife.

Nice toys...don't have room or the inclination to list all weapons currently owned. I DO know this much....aint no-one on this site got a better hand gat then I do

brand spankin new Ruger Vaccarro...totally reworked by Oglesby...trigger work....over-sized hammer....reworked barrel....all nickle including the barrel....and to top it off won the damn thing at a gun shoot, if it isn't the nicest pistol in IL. it is it's equal...won it in a drawing, turned down $2 Gs for it by the Prez of the gun club....best 10 spot i ever spent!

GoBears: while you do keep coming up with witty comebacks you cannot argue the point that those who fight Pit Bulls, would use other dogs if that breed was gone, and in turn would breed as much aggression that they could into them.....those punks would watch a poodle -pug fight if they had nothing else to torture. Making most of your arguement moot, you would end up needing to outlaw all dogs, and thats just retarded,,,,you can make ANY dog mean if you mistreat it enough...Pit Bulls and American Staffordshire Terrier are the same breed....since 1936 they stopped breeding the fighting strain of the AST and they are a mellow friendly breed.....before 1980 you never heard of Pit Bull attacks....why not?....it wasn't until people who shouldn't be allowed to raise goldfish started raising and breeding them, that they started getting out of control.

 Facts can be checked on www.nyx./~mbur/apbt.html.....I know it throws people off to use actual facts in thier arguements on this site, but if you're talkng about the annhilation of a breed you should know what the Phuk you're talking about

lost in iowa wrote:

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GoBears: while you do keep coming up with witty comebacks you cannot argue the point that those who fight Pit Bulls, would use other dogs if that breed was gone, and in turn would breed as much aggression that they could into them.....those punks would watch a poodle -pug fight if they had nothing else to torture. Making most of your arguement moot, you would end up needing to outlaw all dogs, and thats just retarded,,,,you can make ANY dog mean if you mistreat it enough...Pit Bulls and American Staffordshire Terrier are the same breed....since 1936 they stopped breeding the fighting strain of the AST and they are a mellow friendly breed.....before 1980 you never heard of Pit Bull attacks....why not?....it wasn't until people who shouldn't be allowed to raise goldfish started raising and breeding them, that they started getting out of control.

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You never heard about Pit Bull attacks until the early 90's really. That is not owing to the fact that the animal is worse, just more common.

In 1990 if there were 10,000 Pit Bulls living in residential areas, and 1 in 1,000 bit, then you have 10 attacks.

Fast forward to the gangsta rappers bringing them in vouge in the early 90's, and suddenly there are hundreds of thousands of them living in residential areas, and do the same math.

I say ban them, and deal with the outcome, but assuming you don't agree, what do you propose? Continue to let them terrorize residential areas so that some lame redneck can pretend he is "down"? I think these wanna be DMX retards are drain enough on our society without the dangerous weapon on a leash.

If anything I say the owners should be liable for the crime of the dog. If it kills someone that is "Murder 2". The owner does 10-12 years. I would still prefer the "ban em' - kill em'" approach that they use in Denver, but I'll take what I can get.