My PACKER mid-season grades...

Grave Digger · Head Dick

My PACKER mid-season grades...

BigBoyChief · Kick Asser

I still like the Pack and hopefully they can sneak something in the 2nd half of the season like they did a couple of years ago. Farve has shown in a couple of games that he still has what it takes to thread the needle...still, and as always has gotten too ****y and careless.

Vanni9283 · Head Dick

My gut tells me that they might pull off an upset win in Minnesota this week!!!

Maggot · Head Dick

Grades...OK. But how could you honestly be happy with Brett still there? NO PROGRESSION. One things for sure, your not going back to the dance with him. I guess from a fans standpoint I feel ya, but talk about same ol' same ol'

Grave Digger · Head Dick

Maggot wrote:

Grades...OK. But how could you honestly be happy with Brett still there? NO PROGRESSION. One things for sure, your not going back to the dance with him. I guess from a fans standpoint I feel ya, but talk about same ol' same ol'

Favre gives the team the best chance to win and go to the SB...plain and simple. What progression is Favre suppose to show? He's not a rookie. He has so far been an improvment over the train wreck he was a year ago. He hasn't done a bad job. As I said, some overthrown balls, but the INT numbers are down which is extremely important.

GoBearsGalason · Head Dick

The Packers don't have a snowballs chance in hell to make the playoffs this year. This whole "Were not giving up on making the playoffs were sticking with Brett "your hero" Favre cause we don't want to look like were packing it in" stuff is a crock of crap.

Move the fukn on already. Because the team as a whole isn't worthy of "Your Favreness", they should just get Rodgers in. I just don't understand their logic at this point.

Or I do....I take that back. Mccarthy effectively buys himself a year on his contract. This year is a freebee for him contract wise. now he has 4 years to do something rather than 3....And in the process he gets himself a high draft pick.

I bet that they take Adrian Peterson in the first round this year. He's a monster a man among boys in college (or was until he "Popped his Colla").

lost in iowa · Head Dick

that and they don't have a RB under contract after this year (exception...don't know what the contract situation is on the new kid they grabbed)

Backinthesaddleagain · Head Dick

Grave Digger wrote:

Favre gives the team the best chance to win and go to the SB...plain and simple.

The pack is OBVIOUSLY in a rebuild mode.....so please stop with the business of "Farve gives them the best chance to win and go to the SB".....SB!!!.....BS.

Farve should be told by management that the teams needs to start the next generation and move to on with its future. It should have been done this past off-season........

Time marches on.......Brett you were awesome........Time marches on.......

-- Edited by Backinthesaddleagain at 14:24, 2006-11-10

Grave Digger · Head Dick

Backinthesaddleagain wrote:

Grave Digger wrote:

Favre gives the team the best chance to win and go to the SB...plain and simple.

The pack is OBVIOUSLY in a rebuild mode.....so please stop with the business of "Farve gives them the best chance to win and go to the SB".....SB!!!.....BS.

Farve should be told by management that the teams needs to start the next generation and move to on with its future. It should have been done this past off-season........

Time marches on.......Brett you were awesome........Time marches on.......

-- Edited by Backinthesaddleagain at 14:24, 2006-11-10

I Never said I think the Packers ARE going to go to the SB, lord knows they aren't. I merely stated I think if they WERE in a position to make a run, Favre obviously gives them a better chance. Thats the truth.

I'm so fukin sick of all this "Favre needs to pack it in/ put Rodgers in" bullsh1t. The simple fact of football is that you put the BEST 11 guys on the field. You don't sacrifice a year by putting in the inexperienced guy just to "get him ready for the future". You don't run a team like that. Being in rebuild mode doesn't mean you "take a season off" or throw in the towel. You play to win every game, whether you are confident you completely suck, or you know your going to win.

Way to go coaches.........

Oh and GoBears, the Packers won't be in a position to draft Peterson. He is most definantly a Top 5 pick even w/ the collar bone. The Packers won't be drafting Top 5. If the draft started now, I think the Packers would be drafting somewhere between 9 and 12...I can't remember. I follow the draft and college scouting pretty closely (I'd love to do it as work, but I won't), so if you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask!!!

-- Edited by Grave Digger at 15:55, 2006-11-10

-- Edited by Grave Digger at 15:57, 2006-11-10

GoBearsGalason · Head Dick

The year is young digger...they will be drafting very high on that board. I hope he doesnt end up in the NFC north.

steelfan · Half A Man

Ray Rice is the best back in college anyway.

Grave Digger · Head Dick

steelfan wrote:

Ray Rice is the best back in college anyway.

Ray Rice is also a sophmore and is not eligible for the draft for at least a year.

Adrian Peterson is by far the best RB in the country. Marshawn Lynch (Cal) is 2nd and might go as high as top 10, more likely 11-20. The Packers will definantly be in a position to draft him, but I don't think they will. The zone blocking sceme allows the Packers to draft RBs later on, if at all (see Denver...Terrell Davis, Mike Bell, etc.). More than likely, the Packers will draft one of the top 2 corners this year, Michigan's Leon Hall, or Fresno St.'s Marcus McCauley. Both are two of the best CB prospects I've seen in a few years. Better than Dunta Robinson, DeAngelo Hall, or even Chris Gamble were.

Pink Taco Stadium · Mr. Big Nuts

Grave Digger wrote:

steelfan wrote:

Ray Rice is the best back in college anyway.

Ray Rice is also a sophmore and is not eligible for the draft for at least a year.

Adrian Peterson is by far the best RB in the country. Marshawn Lynch (Cal) is 2nd and might go as high as top 10, more likely 11-20. The Packers will definantly be in a position to draft him, but I don't think they will. The zone blocking sceme allows the Packers to draft RBs later on, if at all (see Denver...Terrell Davis, Mike Bell, etc.). More than likely, the Packers will draft one of the top 2 corners this year, Michigan's Leon Hall, or Fresno St.'s Marcus McCauley. Both are two of the best CB prospects I've seen in a few years. Better than Dunta Robinson, DeAngelo Hall, or even Chris Gamble were.

I hate to pick on ya, but "or even chris gamble"?? seriously, gamble was drafted 26th i think (right after the awesome amazing Ahmad Carroll) but if you say he is a better prospect than Robinson (10th) and Hall (8th) saying he is better than Gamble is kind of assumed isnt it?

And Gobears, I would say there is no way at all the Packers draft in the top five this year. They have been playing solid football for a couple weeks, just losing by turnover and dumb sht like that. Besides the Bears game, they have been competitve in every game.

Also, what do you guys think about Garrett Wolfe, he isnt real big, but could he be like a Warrick Dunn, or is he just gonna be a third down darren sproles kind of guy?

Grave Digger · Head Dick

Pink Taco Stadium wrote:

Grave Digger wrote:

steelfan wrote:

Ray Rice is the best back in college anyway.

Ray Rice is also a sophmore and is not eligible for the draft for at least a year.

Adrian Peterson is by far the best RB in the country. Marshawn Lynch (Cal) is 2nd and might go as high as top 10, more likely 11-20. The Packers will definantly be in a position to draft him, but I don't think they will. The zone blocking sceme allows the Packers to draft RBs later on, if at all (see Denver...Terrell Davis, Mike Bell, etc.). More than likely, the Packers will draft one of the top 2 corners this year, Michigan's Leon Hall, or Fresno St.'s Marcus McCauley. Both are two of the best CB prospects I've seen in a few years. Better than Dunta Robinson, DeAngelo Hall, or even Chris Gamble were.

I hate to pick on ya, but "or even chris gamble"?? seriously, gamble was drafted 26th i think (right after the awesome amazing Ahmad Carroll) but if you say he is a better prospect than Robinson (10th) and Hall (8th) saying he is better than Gamble is kind of assumed isnt it?

And Gobears, I would say there is no way at all the Packers draft in the top five this year. They have been playing solid football for a couple weeks, just losing by turnover and dumb sht like that. Besides the Bears game, they have been competitve in every game.

Also, what do you guys think about Garrett Wolfe, he isnt real big, but could he be like a Warrick Dunn, or is he just gonna be a third down darren sproles kind of guy?

Ahmad Carroll was one of the biggest reaches in the 21st century. Gamble should have gone higher.

Oh, and Chris Gamble has had more INTs than any other DB since '02 or '03 (whenever he was drafted). He is a solid corner and was coming out. He was more polished than the other two by far, in my opinion. The other two relied more on natural ability, which obviously teams liked better, but I had a feeling he was going to be a very good corner, and he has.

Theres a chance Wolfe could be a Sproles type player. I personally don't think so, but you never know. Obviously when he goes pro, they will ask him to beef up a bit, the question becomes how is ability will change with an increase in wieght (muscle). If he can get stronger and maintain his ability, he will make it.....if he slows down and can't be as productive, he will be gone.

-- Edited by Grave Digger at 17:14, 2006-11-12

Jhuber · One Testicle Guy

I want a regrade after the vikings game - this team is coming together, they get better every week (except for a fallout in buffalo) - if the packers would of won the game they just handed buffalo, we would be looking at a 5-4 record, wich would be worthy of wild card talks, I see GB finishing 8-8. Wich is about 4 games better than everyone in the world predicted before the season.

I like McCarthy, i like Thompson, and i like the packers chances to be good for another 10 years, fielding the youngest team in the NFL and playing football like they are.

and everyone shut the **** up with your "get favre out of here and let rodgers play" its not going to happen, it would be a ****ing stupid move, and you guys are just hater douche bag ass holes.

-- Edited by Jhuber at 22:59, 2006-11-12

phole · Head Dick

b.s. they ain't coming together, we fell apart. you got lucky, period. we (the Purple) have got to be one of the most UNDERACHIEVING teams this year. the packers are a average at best team. driver exploited a badly planned zone scheme over the middle. our o-line just can't pull their heads outta their arses, and our receivers are below avg. but we are stll better than teh Pack. so don't go buying playoff tixs just yet cheesecurds. the other shoe is about to fall.

Vanni9283 · Head Dick

Hey Jhuber,

Tell me they're gonna "shock the world" next Sunday at Lambeau by pulling off the upset of the century over the Pats! lol!!!

Jhuber · One Testicle Guy

phole its funny to here you say your team is better than the pack after getting beat by the pack in your own stadium. Your only as good as ur last game, and right now the vikings suck, and the packers dont.

No, im not going to call the "upset of the millenium" next week against the pats. But i do think it will be a competitive game, wich would be a good sign for the youngest team in the NFL, and i am not ruling out an upset, although unlikely, its possible.

Grave Digger · Head Dick

phole wrote:

b.s. they ain't coming together, we fell apart. you got lucky, period. we (the Purple) have got to be one of the most UNDERACHIEVING teams this year. the packers are a average at best team. driver exploited a badly planned zone scheme over the middle. our o-line just can't pull their heads outta their arses, and our receivers are below avg. but we are stll better than teh Pack. so don't go buying playoff tixs just yet cheesecurds. the other shoe is about to fall.

Thats BS. The Packers beat the Vikings thus they are better. Period. The Bears beat the Packers, thus they are better. Thats how it works. Being good "on paper" doesn't mean jack. Supposedly the Vikings were better at every position than the Packers, including coaching, yet the Packers beat them. They have a word for that, it's called being OVERRATED.

phole · Head Dick

yeah, right, the vikes are overrated. if you really think the pack is better than the Purple then it's time tio finally put the bong away for good. they played well, we played like crap. that doesn't mean the pack is better, just lucky.

Jhuber · One Testicle Guy

phole wrote:

yeah, right, the vikes are overrated. if you really think the pack is better than the Purple then it's time tio finally put the bong away for good. they played well, we played like crap. that doesn't mean the pack is better, just lucky.

you are a ****ing moron, we have the same exact record, and we beat you in YOUR stadium. Game over, the packers are the better team. Maybe you can stop dreaming your team is better when the packers sweep your sorry asses when you come to GB.

Im not saying the packers are "good", but we sure as hell are better then the overrated, over hyped vikings. Your offense is painful to watch, and your pass defense got shredded by the supposed "washed up" Favre. The patriots exposed how to beat the vikings, and now i dont expect the vikings to win very many more. It is about this time of the year, just about every year, that the vikings start self-imploding isnt it?

phole · Head Dick

lay off the paint thinner guy. this is why they play the games very sunday( and thursday, monday and sometimes sat.). any team can beat any other team. even a crappy team like the Pack. i am delusional, i'm a vikes fan, it goes with the territory. but c'mon, through those paint-thinner hued goggles ya know yer team really sucks.

Vanni9283 · Head Dick

Well, your Vikes appear to be going downhill buddy! And in a HURRY too!

Grave Digger · Head Dick

phole wrote:

lay off the paint thinner guy. this is why they play the games very sunday( and thursday, monday and sometimes sat.). any team can beat any other team. even a crappy team like the Pack. i am delusional, i'm a vikes fan, it goes with the territory. but c'mon, through those paint-thinner hued goggles ya know yer team really sucks.

What the FUK man? We're the ones with paint-thinner hued goggles or drinking the kool aid? BS. Thats moronic. My team BEAT your team, fair and square, and you have the balls to say YOUR team is better. Sounds like your delusional bro.

Thats like me sitting here and going, "well the Bears ONLY beat the Packers by 26, but I still believe we are the better team..." I'm not that dumb, and I don't think you are either.

Maybe it's denial, I don't know. Thats the thing I like about low expectations. When you fuk up some over-confident A-hole team, everyone is in shock. It feels good on my end. 2nd in the division and ridin the wave of winning 3 of the last 4 while Minnesota is licking their wounds winning 1 out of their last 4.

Have I lied about ANYTHING here?

GoBearsGalason · Head Dick

Grave Digger wrote:

phole wrote:

lay off the paint thinner guy. this is why they play the games very sunday( and thursday, monday and sometimes sat.). any team can beat any other team. even a crappy team like the Pack. i am delusional, i'm a vikes fan, it goes with the territory. but c'mon, through those paint-thinner hued goggles ya know yer team really sucks.

What the FUK man? We're the ones with paint-thinner hued goggles or drinking the kool aid? BS. Thats moronic. My team BEAT your team, fair and square, and you have the balls to say YOUR team is better. Sounds like your delusional bro.

Thats like me sitting here and going, "well the Bears ONLY beat the Packers by 26, but I still believe we are the better team..." I'm not that dumb, and I don't think you are either.

Maybe it's denial, I don't know. Thats the thing I like about low expectations. When you fuk up some over-confident A-hole team, everyone is in shock. It feels good on my end. 2nd in the division and ridin the wave of winning 3 of the last 4 while Minnesota is licking their wounds winning 1 out of their last 4.

Have I lied about ANYTHING here?

Jesus Fukn Christ Let me settle this once and for all

Both the Packers and The Vikings fukn suck...

Arguing which team is better is like arguing which turd smells less.

Puts things in perspective doesn't it?

LMFAO

Grave Digger · Head Dick

GoBearsGalason wrote:

Grave Digger wrote:

phole wrote:

lay off the paint thinner guy. this is why they play the games very sunday( and thursday, monday and sometimes sat.). any team can beat any other team. even a crappy team like the Pack. i am delusional, i'm a vikes fan, it goes with the territory. but c'mon, through those paint-thinner hued goggles ya know yer team really sucks.

What the FUK man? We're the ones with paint-thinner hued goggles or drinking the kool aid? BS. Thats moronic. My team BEAT your team, fair and square, and you have the balls to say YOUR team is better. Sounds like your delusional bro.

Thats like me sitting here and going, "well the Bears ONLY beat the Packers by 26, but I still believe we are the better team..." I'm not that dumb, and I don't think you are either.

Maybe it's denial, I don't know. Thats the thing I like about low expectations. When you fuk up some over-confident A-hole team, everyone is in shock. It feels good on my end. 2nd in the division and ridin the wave of winning 3 of the last 4 while Minnesota is licking their wounds winning 1 out of their last 4.

Have I lied about ANYTHING here?

Jesus Fukn Christ Let me settle this once and for all

Both the Packers and The Vikings fukn suck...

Arguing which team is better is like arguing which turd smells less.

Puts things in perspective doesn't it?

LMFAO

Don't you have anything better to do? Doesn't the drawn on ballsack on your Brian Urlacher Fathead need polishing or something? I'll tell you what needs to happen, why don't you go to Soldier Field and teach T-Rex Grossman how to play QB...obviously anything would be an improvement over his current QB coach. You get it, because Grossman sucks....

LMFAO

lost in iowa · Head Dick

Geez Digger, I see what you mean

Grossman: 16 games started / QB rating 83.6 / 17 TDs / Record: 8-1

Farve: 16 years experience / QB rating 81.6 / 13 TDs / Record: 4-5

Scoreboard baby...take that smack somewhere else. Maybe you could rent our QB coach to coach up YOUR QB eh? If any fans in the NFL can be accused of ballsack polishing it IS the Packer fans, definitely not the Bears fans...doubting thier QB is in thier genetic code

Grave Digger · Head Dick

lost in iowa wrote:

Grossman: 16 games started / QB rating 83.6 / 17 TDs / Record: 8-1

Wasn't Grossman's rating in the hundreds through most of the season? It appears your QB is sliding downward while Favre has only gotten better from the beginning of the season. Give it a couple weeks, Favre will still probably be around 81 while your boy T-Rex keeps sliding.

lost in iowa · Head Dick

now thats really climbing out on a limb....Grossmans rating will slide in the couple of weeks, REALLY? what gave you that thunderbolt from god? Maybe the fact that he's missing his big play reciever?...or maybe the fact that he is playing thier 2nd and 3rd road game in a row? Talk to me at the end of the season, I just gave you the stats at the halfway point....and so far Rex has been the better QB, it doesn't mean he will be at the end of the season but he is right now.

It seems to me if you're going to dog on someones QB while crotch-nuzzling yours, that you're QB should have either better stats or more wins....remind me again hows that going for him?

To be entirely honest what are Farves chances for being better next year? I can tell you NONE, he is as good as he will ever be again, all he has is down hill, the same cannot be said about Rex. The truth may suck for you, but it remains the truth none the less.

Grave Digger · Head Dick

lost in iowa wrote:

now thats really climbing out on a limb....Grossmans rating will slide in the couple of weeks, REALLY? what gave you that thunderbolt from god? Maybe the fact that he's missing his big play reciever?...or maybe the fact that he is playing thier 2nd and 3rd road game in a row? Talk to me at the end of the season, I just gave you the stats at the halfway point....and so far Rex has been the better QB, it doesn't mean he will be at the end of the season but he is right now.

It seems to me if you're going to dog on someones QB while crotch-nuzzling yours, that you're QB should have either better stats or more wins....remind me again hows that going for him?

To be entirely honest what are Farves chances for being better next year? I can tell you NONE, he is as good as he will ever be again, all he has is down hill, the same cannot be said about Rex. The truth may suck for you, but it remains the truth none the less.

I thought Grossman was the golden boy. He can do no wrong. He is the best QB in the last 50 years. Thats how you all treated him through the 1st half of the year. Now that he has been struggling, I havn't heard as much sh1t about how great he is. Jeez, talk about jumpin on the bandwagon. At least I can nuzzle Favre's crotch even when he has a bad game.

I guess I should have put a little fuking smiley, cause it was a joke man. Just Packer/Bear jawing. But look deeper in the stats. In the month of Sept., his rating was 100.9. Thats real good. Then in Oct. he dropped to an 81.0 rating. Still good. Now in Nov. his rating is down to 65.5.......I don't know what the deal is, but his play has definantly dropped of from 2 months ago...as you say, I'm just giving you the stats. Favre started off in Sept. with an average 87.2 rating. In Oct., he dropped to 75.8. Now in Nov. he has worked back up to average with an 82.3 rating. From watching the games with my own two eyes, it seems as though Favre IS becoming comfortable with his new team, and IS getting better. I'm just showing you the facts.

I see no reason why Favre couldn't get better than this year. If all he has is down hill, why is he doing better than last season. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't doing better than the year before called going uphill?? Not to beat this drum again, but the Packers are the youngest team in the league. A full year of experience in theory means they will be better next year. Surround Favre with players who are even just a little bit better, in the same sceme he is doing good in, and he should do even better next year. Physically, I agree he won't get any better, but if you give your QB better players, he will get better numbers wise.

-- Edited by Grave Digger at 23:18, 2006-11-16