Super Bowl Predictions

MacheteMouth · Punk Boy

RE: Super Bowl Predictions

GoBearsGalason · Head Dick

How can anyone speak so matter of factly about exactly which element was the most influential in the road to the superbowl.

They lived, coached, and played like a team. The coaches, the Management, and the players executed for that run with amazing results. Most amazing is that they did this during a cap crazy era. They were able to do this without elevating too many players to the elite status, and therefore getting into too many contract disputes every year. Even with contracts locking up players for 6 or more years, that doesn't mean a damn thing. Injuries are the most important element of the equation. The Patriots were able to get serviceable to very good play out of backup players. That is one of the rare elements of that equation.

For that reason alone, I would say that the days of the dynasty are all but over.

So now do you attribute their success to their GM? Belichek? Tom Brady? Crennel and or Wiess?

cummon. dumb argument.

-- Edited by GoBearsGalason at 13:23, 2006-08-07

saturn11 · Head Dick

Billy B-chick is the class of the league's coaches. Whoever pointed out that HE picked his assistants is right.

And until Crennell and Weiss have won three Soops themselves, we can't say the assistant coaches made the coach, the way we might in the case of B-chick and Parcells.

And that applies to Parcells, too. A really good coach who had the smarts to employ B-chick. However, at this point, I think the pupil has outgrown the master.

People forget: Parcells came within a half a foot of...1., only having ONE Super Bowl to his credit and 2., being the ONLY coach to lose a super bowl game to those Bills.

Is this the stuff of legend?

Nah.

If Parcells can WIN a Soop in Dallas, then everything changes, cuz that team's not as good as the pundits are sayin'.

btw, GoBears, that ptg of Ditka is a masterpiece.

GoBearsGalason · Head Dick

I think so too. Anyone who thinks otherwise has a wh0re for a mother.

But, can you cannot attribute their success alone to their arrival. remember, that young team got another year older and wiser. I am not trying to discredit their ability ....just saying.

JetBlackNinja · Head Dick

saturn11 wrote:

If Parcells can WIN a Soop in Dallas, then everything changes, cuz that team's not as good as the pundits are sayin'.

This is a fact. If Parcells can win in Dallas, then that takes some of the sheen off the "It was all Belichick" stuff, but if he retires having his only success behind a Belichick coached D, then it will always be considered a case of the student surpassing the master.

If the Patriots can't go all the way I would like to see Parcells and Bledsoe do it. In that way they are still the Patriots to me.

saturn11 · Head Dick

GoBears wrote:

"But, can you cannot attribute their success alone to their arrival. remember, that young team got another year older and wiser. I am not trying to discredit their ability ....just saying."

I ask:

Whatchootalkin''bout, GoBears? I'm not sure who "they" are in the sentence above.

rackin' my brain...

Grave Digger · Head Dick

If Billy B. is such a great coach and he was the ONLY reason Bill Parcells is a HOF coach, then why did he fail so fukin miserably in Cleveland. Those teams fukin blew. As bad as the current Cleveland teams. Why the hell didn't he turn those teams around and have a fukin dynasty??

So he was lucky enough to find two genius coordinators. He lucked out. The Patriots lucked out when the found Brady in the what 6th or 7th(?) round. They didn't magically look into the future and see that Brady would be the QB on 3 SB teams. Most likely, they thought they were getting just a camp body to compete. They lucked out too. He's not the fukin genius you all think he is. Great coaches can compete without great coordinators. So far Billy B. hasn't shown he can compete without great coordinators.

JetBlackNinja · Head Dick

Reading the book "Education of a Coach" would give you the insight you need to understand why Belichick's time in Cleveland was such a disaster. If he had never coached there he would not have the success he has now.

His decisions were constantly second-guessed, and he never had full control of the Browns. This should tell you simply that when you do it "Belichick's way" you win, and when you do it "The owner's way" you lose. Belichick learned that in Cleveland, and Kraft learned it from the Parcells disaster. It was "the perfect storm" in that way. If Belichick had not been promised full control and final say in New England then he would have stayed with the Jets, and may never have won a Bowl at all.

That is life: 1 decision or move along the way can effect everything else to come.

doktorzeep · Punk Boy

Dolphins vs. Seahawks=Dolphins

GoBearsGalason · Head Dick

They are the New England Patriots. Isn't it amazing that a young football team is old after 3 years?

JetBlackNinja · Head Dick

GoBearsGalason wrote:

They are the New England Patriots. Isn't it amazing that a young football team is old after 3 years?

Outside of the Linebacking core they are a very young team.

D line is all VERY young.

The Secondary is all VERY young except Harrison.

We seem to be going in with 3 TE in leiu of or WR, and all of the TE are VERY VERY young. Brady is young and the RB is both old (Dillon) and young (Maroney).

I see it as a very young and inexperienced team (except Brady who has pleanty of good experience).

schlosser · Half A Man

Chargers vs Bears. It is done.

(GoBearsGalason, why the Matt Millen painting?)

-- Edited by schlosser at 18:53, 2006-08-10