Most Underrated Team of the 2006 Season...

SBrown24 · Punk Boy

Most Underrated Team of the 2006 Season...

saturn11 · Head Dick

Yup.

it's basically the same nucleus that took them to the bowl with the following changes:

now: stallworth / reggie brown
then: t.o / pinky

now: jamal brown
then: hank frahley

now: broderick bunkley
then: hollis thomas

now: darren howard
then: ND Kalu / a slowed old Hugh Douglas / Derrick Burgess

now: matt mccoy
then: marc simoneau

now: L.J. Smith / Matt Schoebel
then: Chad Lewis / L.J. Smith

w/ the exception of wr, these all look like upgrades or draws (LB / TE) to me.

I'm not saying this to suggest that they're a super bowl team this year. I am saying it to suggest that they ARE, as proposed, pretty underrated. noone is even picking them to go to the playoffs. I can't think of a better team that you can say that about.

User Name · Head Dick

stallworth is no t.o.

lol.

saturn11 · Head Dick

User Name wrote:

stallworth is no t.o.

lol.

yes. which is why I said:

"w/ the exception of wr, these all look like upgrades or draws (LB / TE) to me."

never said stallworth is equal t.o..

Vanni9283 · Head Dick

I can concur with my EAGLES as being underrated. I also think that the San Diego Chargers might be another team that I'd look at as underrated.

The Truth · Kick Asser

TB. Media doesn't respect teams who rely on defense and running game.

twanne · Kick Asser

Philly is being treated as if T.O. was their entire team, when the truth of the matter is that McNabb was/is their entire team. Pre-T.O., all McNabb had was a couple of moldy socks at WR and a RB that he could beat for the starting spot and they continually made the NFC title game. Post-T.O., all McNabb has is a couple of moldy socks at WR and a RB that he could beat for the starting spot, so until he doesn't carry them at least to the playoffs, they should get more credit than they do.

saturn11 · Head Dick

i agree with your assessment of the Eagles as underrated, but your analysis is pretty silly.
no single player is an entire team in football. you discredit yourself by suggesting it.

coaching? defense? o-line? that's at least seventeen other guys who have a say in whether or not a game goes in the win column or the loss column.

gimme a break.

Vanni9283 · Head Dick

About TB, I think they are in fact, a little-bit OVERrated! That's a team that I think might wind up taking a slight step backward this year. I think they'll still be decent though, don't get me wrong, but not quite as good as last year.

The Truth · Kick Asser

Vanni9283 wrote:

About TB, I think they are in fact, a little-bit OVERrated! That's a team that I think might wind up taking a slight step backward this year. I think they'll still be decent though, don't get me wrong, but not quite as good as last year.

I guess they were over-rated week 14 when they went into Carolina and blew them off the field.

Miami Bear 305 · Head Dick

The Truth wrote:

Vanni9283 wrote:

About TB, I think they are in fact, a little-bit OVERrated! That's a team that I think might wind up taking a slight step backward this year. I think they'll still be decent though, don't get me wrong, but not quite as good as last year.

I guess they were over-rated week 14 when they went into Carolina and blew them off the field.

Which brings up another point, I think Carolina is overrated. They are VERY good but not heads and shoulders above any of the other projected division winners or even in their own divison. DeSahun Foster has never rushed for over 900 yards so unless DeAngelo Williams produces like a stud this year (which is very possible imo), they will not live up to their expectations. If Williams does indeed turn into ROY, THEN I will say Carolina is the favorite to rep the NFC in the Superbowl.

hark44 · Kick Asser

i wouldnt say the bucs are over-rated... but they have a pretty tough schedule this year... it would be telling of their potential to see how they do...

Backinthesaddleagain · Head Dick

Many are saying that New England is done......I think not.

San Diego is under rated.........the team is over-flowing with talent.

The Ravens are under rated.....with McNair they will be strong (albeit in a nasty Steelers/Bengals division).

Kansas City is strong......(despite Herm "The Cheerleader" Edwards being the coach).

The Titans will be substantially improved over the past two seasons regardless of Lendel (TURD) White. Not great......just better.

The Chicago Bears defense will bring them to the play-offs again......the rest of the division sucks.

hark44 · Kick Asser

conversely the patriots have the easiest shedule in football... i dunno that theyre as good as they were.. but they'll be in the playoffs this year

Vanni9283 · Head Dick

But at the same time, they LOST to the lowly 49ers for god's sake!!!! AND DON'T BOTHER TRYING TO MAKE EXCUSES AS TO WHY THEY LOST THAT GAME! As far as Carolina is concerned, I thought they had a tendency to overlook some games last year, and that may have wound up costing them in the long run. Such games that I am thinking of include that TB home game that you were referring to, along with their Week 16 game vs. Dallas. This year, however, I think they will do a better job of taking each game on their schedule seriously so that they don't wind up losing to teams who they should beat.

The Truth · Kick Asser

Vanni9283 wrote:

But at the same time, they LOST to the lowly 49ers for god's sake!!!! AND DON'T BOTHER TRYING TO MAKE EXCUSES AS TO WHY THEY LOST THAT GAME! As far as Carolina is concerned, I thought they had a tendency to overlook some games last year, and that may have wound up costing them in the long run. Such games that I am thinking of include that TB home game that you were referring to, along with their Week 16 game vs. Dallas. This year, however, I think they will do a better job of taking each game on their schedule seriously so that they don't wind up losing to teams who they should beat.

Vanni, how could Carolina overlook a divisional home game week 14 against their rival, when they were tied in the standings and the NFC South title was on the line? Sounds like you're the one making excuses.

Vanni9283 · Head Dick

Well, maybe I used the wrong term. They had costly let-downs last year after BIG wins, and that's what they won't let happen to them this year. Carolina is certainly NOT overrated, because I know that when that team is at the top of their game, they are capable of beating the BEST (and yes that includes teams from the AFC as well). You think TB is gonna win that division again this year or something? Sure, that division is competitive, but I think Carolina is the frontrunner to win that division, as they should be. (In fact, I personally think they will win that division this year by a more comfortable margin than many people expect!) TB may have a shot at the WC, but i surely don't think that they're gonna be as good a team as they were last year. (And YES, they STILL lost to the 49ers by the way!!!)

The Truth · Kick Asser

Vanni9283 wrote:

Well, maybe I used the wrong term. They had costly let-downs last year after BIG wins, and that's what they won't let happen to them this year. Carolina is certainly NOT overrated, because I know that when that team is at the top of their game, they are capable of beating the BEST (and yes that includes teams from the AFC as well). You think TB is gonna win that division again this year or something? Sure, that division is competitive, but I think Carolina is the frontrunner to win that division, as they should be. (In fact, I personally think they will win that division this year by a more comfortable margin than many people expect!) TB may have a shot at the WC, but i surely don't think that they're gonna be as good a team as they were last year. (And YES, they STILL lost to the 49ers by the way!!!)

OK since you won't let that SF thing go... Carolina lost at home to the Saints, what's the difference between that and losing on the road to SF? And like you said, I DON'T WANT TO HEAR ANY EXCUSES!

TB and Carolina are just about even. I don't know how can "surely" think the Bucs won't be as good as last year, considering they're returning 21 of 22 starters and added Davin Joseph.

Wake Turbulence · Half A Man

The huge question with Tampa is their O-line. IF the O-line can gel and perform well, Tampa will be a force to be reckoned with this year. The O-line of the Bucs has been the Achilles heel for a long time.

Vanni9283 · Head Dick

Carolina lost at home to the Saints

But then the very NEXT week, they picked up a BIG home win vs. the defending Super Bowl champion Pats. That's why I said when they are on top of their game they can beat the best.

As far as the Bucs are concerned, I don't think they will be as good as they were last year because of the following reasons:

1. Tougher schedule

2. Tougher division

3. Despite being one of the league's best defenses, teams (especially those within their division) have been able to beat them on the ground. I think that will be true again this year.

Anyhow, I have Carolina going 12-4, which I think will be a good-enough record to get them homefield in the NFC.

The Truth · Kick Asser

Vanni, Bucs defense was #2 in YPC against last season. If you take away Vick's rushes they were actually #1 in YPC against. So how is their run defense soft?

Vanni9283 · Head Dick

Yo, I don't just base things on numbers, I base things on what I see from watching the games, and I don't feel that the Bucs run D is as good as their numbers indicate. I feel that they play their best D against the pass.

You can defend your @$$ all you want, but I believe that, as of right now, Carolina is closer to the Super Bowl than TB.

TACOBILL · Head Dick

I think its Green Bay. Favre will bounce back and throw 40 TD's....Ahman Grenn is due for a 1500 yrd season....that O-line looks solid......and Mr Quinn will give birth to an offspring remotely looking human

Vanni9283 · Head Dick

lol!!! GB is nowhere near CLOSE to being an underrated football team! O-line looks SOLID???? (And YES, I only think you're being sarcastic!!!)

TACOBILL · Head Dick

I was joking about GB. My Ip address had a problem and I was testing it. But while on the subject....I think GB could be as bad as 2005. So the question is...does McCarthy have the balls to bench Favre?

Obviously a new coach doesnt want "has beens" from another staff...but does he have the balls to bench Favre?

Favre is bigger than just a QB. Men in Green Bay mount Favre blow up dolls...women (uglier than most) sniff the tractor seat....just to get a taste of the once mighty FAvre.

My bet...he has the balls.......once they are 0 and 4. Favre will lay down with a non injury...opening the door for a new era

The Truth · Kick Asser

Vanni9283 wrote:

Yo, I don't just base things on numbers, I base things on what I see from watching the games, and I don't feel that the Bucs run D is as good as their numbers indicate. I feel that they play their best D against the pass.

You can defend your @$$ all you want, but I believe that, as of right now, Carolina is closer to the Super Bowl than TB.

Well damn I want to know what games you're watching. Like I said before, Bucs defense was #2 in YPC against. You don't "feel" the Bucs run D is as good as the numbers because you don't "want" them to be as good as the numbers, it scares you that a team is able to stop both the run and pass that effectively. YPC against isn't some BS stat like passing yards. YPC against is THE TRUTH! And of course they play their best D against the pass. Under Kiffen the Bucs have had one of the best pass defenses in NFL History.

Vanni9283 · Head Dick

Well, remember how the lowly Saints always caused them problems because they were able to throw them off-balance (and YES, the Panthers have been able to do the same thing against them!)? Explain to me why that happened.

The Truth · Kick Asser

Vanni9283 wrote:

Well, remember how the lowly Saints always caused them problems because they were able to throw them off-balance (and YES, the Panthers have been able to do the same thing against them!)? Explain to me why that happened.

Since when is 1 season "always"? Bucs have beaten the Saints 4 out of the last 5. And the Saints caused the Bucs problems in 2002 because they committed to the run. In 2 games Duece had 58 carries for 208 yards. It wasn't the YPC that was killing the defense, that was a mediocre 3.5 ypc. But the fact that the Saints were sticking with the 2, 3, and 4 yard gains and keeping the ball out of Aaron Brooks' turnover prone hands was the reason they won those games.

And that was before the Bucs added the beast named Chris Hovan.

The Panthers really hammered the Bucs with the run last year. 50 carries for 153 yards, a mighty 3.06 ypc.

Vanni9283 · Head Dick

Yes, and the Panthers should CONTINUE to hammer the Bucs, because they ARE the better team!!!

1 packer fan · Mr. Big Nuts

chris hovan man the mighty have fallen.