saturn11 wrote: i agree with your assessment of the Eagles as underrated, but your analysis is pretty silly. no single player is an entire team in football. you discredit yourself by suggesting it.
coaching? defense? o-line? that's at least seventeen other guys who have a say in whether or not a game goes in the win column or the loss column.
gimme a break.
I Meant that figuratively, of course! However, McNabb has been the closest thing to a one-man team that we've seen since Elway/Marino. McNabb has done more with less help than most marquee QB's in recent memory
__________________
Lesson learned from the Bengals & Clippers: It can always get worse, but it will get better.
I really hate to do this, as I get just as sick of their "no respect" talk as everyone else does....but I have to say the Patriots. This team is a legit Super Bowl contender, but people keep looking for reasons to write them off. And when I see people picking the Dolphins to win the AFC East, I have to ask what they're smoking, cause it must be real good.
People say the Patriots' D is old, but it's really not, and certainly not the D-line and secondary. The only starters over 30 are Vrabel, Bruschi, and Harrison. Here is the list of teams that wouldn't take all 3 of those guys: Bears
It's a short list.
People criticize the secondary, but I'm not sure why. You don't need an all-star set of DBs when the front seven is causing havoc. And what's so bad about Hobbs, Samuel, Harrison and Wilson? You could do a lot worse than that.
The offense lost both starting WRs, yes, but they spread the ball so much that it probably won't matter. The running will be stronger too with a healthy O-line and the addition of Maroney. And with all those TEs they have, don't be surprised if they switch from a passing team to a power running team, and be successfull doing it.
People want to write this team off, with some even saying they won't make the playoffs. I just don't see it. They have a very easy schedule and as long as they have Brady and Belichick, they will be a SB contender. I know a lot of ya'll wanna hate on them, but you're really just drawing at straws.
Chargers are a close second. Rivers won't be a drop-off from Brees, and I like their defense more than others for the reason I listed above: you can hide a secondary if the front seven is causing havoc. SD has a nasty front seven, even w/o Foley. And they're gonna score a ton of points, as long as Schottenchoker doesn't go conservative and run LT into the ground in the first half (let the kid throw Marty; he's ready.) I think they'll win the division, but the AFC West should be tough yet again.
-- Edited by dividius at 15:38, 2006-09-05
__________________
No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public - H.L. Mencken
I agree with what you said about the Chargers, except I don't think they are gonna end up winning their division (I think it'll be the Broncos). However, with all that being said, I do believe they have a legitimate shot at a wild-card.
The Broncos will be tough, but I see them taking a small step back and SD taking a small step forward. And in the NFL, there is a very fine line between going 9-7 and 12-4. A small step forward and some luck are all you really need to turn things around, and vice versa. Plummer played out of his mind and I can't see him throwing only 7 INTs again. He threw 20 in 2004 and 7 in 11 games in 2003, so I see some regression to the mean for him. I also think they will miss Mike Anderson more than people realize. He played pretty well for them last year. They also have a tougher schedule than SD does. Denver gets Indy and NE, while SD gets Tennessee and Buffalo. In the close AFC West, that two game difference could be huge, as the rest of their schedules are basically the same. Then there's KC, but their 2 game difference is Miami and Jax, so SD wins that battle too. And I can't pick a team with a defense as bad as KC's to win a division.
__________________
No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public - H.L. Mencken
the Saints are the most underrated team EVERY season, but moreso this year because even though we've gutted the roster, the coaching staff, and new orleans itself, people still somehow try to bring up "last year's numbers" into the equation as some sort of platform to stand on.
but that's cool, we'll take the 3 points against Cleveland Sunday
Saints, well they are certainly a threat on offense, but their defense flat-out SUCKS!
And I agree with what you said about KC dividus, because I can't see them winning that division either with a defense like that. Although the additions of Herm Edwards as their new HC and Ty Law at CB may help, I have a hard time believing that their defense will improve as dramatically as many people are anticipating. With all that being said, I think they are a still a decent team, but certainly not a great team.
Come on man, the Donkeys are the hands down favorites to win the AFC West, they have only made improvements on a team that made it to the AFC Champ. game last year, there biggest addition that will make the most impact is of course Javon Walker...
What have the Chargers improved on their team? Yes, they still have a scary good front 7 on defense, but the only improvement they made in the secondary is Cremartie, and he will have rookie growing pains...Another weakness on the Chargers is their recieving corps., how did they improve that? Their #1 reciever is applying for the AARP at the end of the season and their leading reciever is a TE...And last of all they let a proven QB go because they have too much invested in unproven Philip Rivers...
Now, how exactly are the Patsies underated, the only idiots that have them losing their division is SI, nuff said...
The most underated team in the 2006 season is the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, if Chris Simms becomes the starting QB they think he is then they are SB contenders.
the Saints are the most underrated team EVERY season, but moreso this year because even though we've gutted the roster, the coaching staff, and new orleans itself, people still somehow try to bring up "last year's numbers" into the equation as some sort of platform to stand on.
but that's cool, we'll take the 3 points against Cleveland Sunday
I was joking about GB. My Ip address had a problem and I was testing it. But while on the subject....I think GB could be as bad as 2005. So the question is...does McCarthy have the balls to bench Favre?
Obviously a new coach doesnt want "has beens" from another staff...but does he have the balls to bench Favre?
Favre is bigger than just a QB. Men in Green Bay mount Favre blow up dolls...women (uglier than most) sniff the tractor seat....just to get a taste of the once mighty FAvre.
My bet...he has the balls.......once they are 0 and 4. Favre will lay down with a non injury...opening the door for a new era
gb offensely will strugle but defensively very strong.
the Saints are the most underrated team EVERY season, but moreso this year because even though we've gutted the roster, the coaching staff, and new orleans itself, people still somehow try to bring up "last year's numbers" into the equation as some sort of platform to stand on.
but that's cool, we'll take the 3 points against Cleveland Sunday
You cant be "underated" when you suck!
no but you can look rather uneducated with misspellings
I didnt forget about LTD in my Chargers rant, I was trying to explain how the Chargers did nothing to upgrade from last year, seeing how LTD was there last year he is not an upgrade...
One reason the Rams could be so low is because Bulger has still yet to play a full season, and they have no backups in St. Louis...however, Stephen Jackson will be a stud this year.
By far the most underrated team for 2006 has to be the Eagles. A lot of mainstream media folk have written these guys off as also rans. I'm guessing that they push for the division lead once again.
With Buckhalter back, they now have RB depth, and with the addition of Stallworth....Well we now see what Reggie Brown can do. This is a 100% improvement over last years team, and in some ways appears to be a better offense than that of the year prior to last.
causeiambetta wrote: just because Philly isn't ballyhooed as the best team doesn't mean they're under-rated at all
it's not just that they're not "ballyhooed as the best team", it's that they're consistently ranked based on last year's 6 - 10 record. S.I. had them somewhere in the 20s in their preseason rankings, PFT had them around the middle of the pack (not close to top three in the conference). Many have them pegged to finish last in the division.
That's pretty underrated.
I also think Ninja brings up a good candidate in the Jags. They're good. But nobody's picking them to do anything.
causeiambetta wrote: just because Philly isn't ballyhooed as the best team doesn't mean they're under-rated at all
it's not just that they're not "ballyhooed as the best team", it's that they're consistently ranked based on last year's 6 - 10 record. S.I. had them somewhere in the 20s in their preseason rankings, PFT had them around the middle of the pack (not close to top three in the conference). Many have them pegged to finish last in the division.
That's pretty underrated.
I also think Ninja brings up a good candidate in the Jags. They're good. But nobody's picking them to do anything.
Point taken. what the hell is wrong with SI? and I'm not even an Eagles fan
causeiambetta wrote: Point taken. what the hell is wrong with SI? and I'm not even an Eagles fan
no idea. hey, for all we know, they could wind up bein' right...
but i DO think they're just looking at 6 - 10, and no splashy free agent signings, and basing it on that.
i've made the same mistake: thought the panthers were finished after their super bowl hangover year...and look at 'em now: after last year, they're this year's "sensible pick" to represent the nfc in the super bowl. turns out i just wasn't paying close enough attention.
the most underrated and bashed team is Steelers - no respect, all disrespect - Porter said it correctly after the game last night - they read the papers, magazines - crap - this site picking them at 8-8
what are they, high? Ben just wins and last night they rallied around his back up - by the way, Batch looked pretty sharp, didn't he, against, oh yeah, the supposed SB representative for '06??? That is funny.....
The will win at least 10, the Bungles are overrated - finally having to face a 1st place schedule for the firist time since, what, 1991? And the Ravens? Forget them - McNair will be lucky to be walking by week 5
Yes, I agree with you that the Bengals and Ravens are overrated. Bengals can sure do a lot on offense, but I really have my doubts about their defense. And the Ravens, well, I don't think they will turn out to be as good as many are anticipating (even though that defense of theirs is still among the the NFL's elite). But, on a side note, I do like them this week to upset the Bucs in Tampa...lol!
the most underrated and bashed team is Steelers - no respect, all disrespect - Porter said it correctly after the game last night - they read the papers, magazines - crap - this site picking them at 8-8
what are they, high? Ben just wins and last night they rallied around his back up - by the way, Batch looked pretty sharp, didn't he, against, oh yeah, the supposed SB representative for '06??? That is funny.....
The will win at least 10, the Bungles are overrated - finally having to face a 1st place schedule for the firist time since, what, 1991? And the Ravens? Forget them - McNair will be lucky to be walking by week 5
the most underrated and bashed team is Steelers - no respect, all disrespect - Porter said it correctly after the game last night - they read the papers, magazines - crap - this site picking them at 8-8
what are they, high? Ben just wins and last night they rallied around his back up - by the way, Batch looked pretty sharp, didn't he, against, oh yeah, the supposed SB representative for '06??? That is funny.....
The will win at least 10, the Bungles are overrated - finally having to face a 1st place schedule for the firist time since, what, 1991? And the Ravens? Forget them - McNair will be lucky to be walking by week 5
The only disagreement i have is the bengals being overrated. Having a MONSTER schedule and not being able to sneak up on anyone does not make you overrated, it makes you a target. That being said, if sam adams can be reasonably effective for 2-3 downs per series, My Bengirls will take the division AGAIN!
__________________
Lesson learned from the Bengals & Clippers: It can always get worse, but it will get better.