deon branch

JetBlackNinja · Head Dick

RE: deon branch

Backinthesaddleagain · Head Dick

JetBlackNinja wrote:

Look when Rodney goes, that is gone. Forget replacing him. He is the greatest "big-play" safety in NFL history (the numbers back me up, so don't go getting yourself beat-down debating the point).

When he is gone, we will put someone there, but they won't be anywhere near Rodney's league.

Well excuse me for having the unmitigated gall to be a Rodney Harrison fan without checking with you first. I didn't know that you had the market cornered and nobody else is allowed to appreciate him as well!!!

Please don't "beat me down"!!!!

twanne · Kick Asser

JetBlackNinja, It should have never come to that in the first place! Given what Troy Brown did was the modern-day ultimate in "team-first" and selflessness in an era of "Me first" and "f**k the team", Troy should have been paid first and fast. That they RELEASED him initially made them appear, at least to me to be the cheapest, slimiest, most two faced team in the nfl. To not immediately reward troy for putting the TEAM first is WRONG!!!! that's it and that's all.

That he stayed with the pats is just more evidence of his team first attitude and desire to win above money!

-- Edited by twanne at 19:57, 2006-09-14

-- Edited by twanne at 19:57, 2006-09-14

JetBlackNinja · Head Dick

Troy was old, and nobody was offering that much because nobody thought he was going to last. He wants to retire a Patriot because he is a local ****in hero. He can live of this community for the rest of his life.

Lemme ask you something? Dou you think Branch would have gotten $40 mil while racking up 5 TD 800 yard seasons for the Raiders or Cards?

There IS an upside to playing here.

Ask Milloy, Seymour, Brady, Woody, Law, Givens, Branch, and a ton of other guys who cashed in here or elsewhere because of the limelight.

Vanni9283 · Head Dick

And didn't they get Doug Gabriel, who was a solid receiver in Oakland?

JetBlackNinja · Head Dick

Vanni9283 wrote:

And didn't they get Doug Gabriel, who was a solid receiver in Oakland?

Yes.

Doug Gabriel had his biggest year to date in 05' catching 3 TDs for 554yds. Had for a 5th.

Branch also had his banner year in 05' cathing 5 TDs for 998yds. Sold for a 1st.

I like it.

twanne · Kick Asser

JetBlackNinja wrote:

Troy was old, and nobody was offering that much because nobody thought he was going to last. He wants to retire a Patriot because he is a local ****in hero. He can live of this community for the rest of his life.

Lemme ask you something? Dou you think Branch would have gotten $40 mil while racking up 5 TD 800 yard seasons for the Raiders or Cards?

There IS an upside to playing here.

Ask Milloy, Seymour, Brady, Woody, Law, Givens, Branch, and a ton of other guys who cashed in here or elsewhere because of the limelight.

super bowl rings are a nice upside to playing in NE, that's a given. however, troy deserved better than what he got from the pats for what he did. also, I don't mind players trying to get PAID! with non-guaranteed contracts and short career spans, one can't blame a guy for trying to get it while he can. but when a player sacrifices money, his own stats and his body for the TEAM, he deserves finiancial appreciation.

JetBlackNinja · Head Dick

twanne wrote:

JetBlackNinja wrote:

Troy was old, and nobody was offering that much because nobody thought he was going to last. He wants to retire a Patriot because he is a local ****in hero. He can live of this community for the rest of his life.

Lemme ask you something? Dou you think Branch would have gotten $40 mil while racking up 5 TD 800 yard seasons for the Raiders or Cards?

There IS an upside to playing here.

Ask Milloy, Seymour, Brady, Woody, Law, Givens, Branch, and a ton of other guys who cashed in here or elsewhere because of the limelight.

super bowl rings are a nice upside to playing in NE, that's a given. however, troy deserved better than what he got from the pats for what he did. also, I don't mind players trying to get PAID! with non-guaranteed contracts and short career spans, one can't blame a guy for trying to get it while he can. but when a player sacrifices money, his own stats and his body for the TEAM, he deserves finiancial appreciation.

In other words... "Thank You Money" which as i have previously stated is "The Stupidest Thing I have Ever Heard".

causeiambetta · Half A Man

JetBlackNinja wrote:

Vanni9283 wrote:

And didn't they get Doug Gabriel, who was a solid receiver in Oakland?

Yes.

Doug Gabriel had his biggest year to date in 05' catching 3 TDs for 554yds. Had for a 5th.

Branch also had his banner year in 05' cathing 5 TDs for 998yds. Sold for a 1st.

I like it.

ehhh, the logic doesn't take into account the big game punch branch bought. also being the fav target of your QB is worth something as well. Not sure if Gabriel will have either of those things :( i'm just glad the divorce happened before the kids got effected

JetBlackNinja · Head Dick

Branch does not bring any "big game punch". Branch never caught a ball the Brady didn't hit him with directly.

saturn11 · Head Dick

branch played well in theee big game (the one with the roman numerals). so i guess a guy can't be blamed for thinking he has "big game punch".

however, i suspect that he was a product of consistently excellent game planning, and, as ninja suggests, brady's calm pocket demeanor in big games.

can doug gabriel (if healthy) do the same thing? if the pats are firing on all cylinders, as they were when branch was there, i'll betcha he can.

-- Edited by saturn11 at 09:00, 2006-09-17

causeiambetta · Half A Man

you know what gets me the most, Branch is now the 7th most highly paid wide reciever in the league...

just thinking off the top of my head, harrison, holt, smith, moss, TO, the top class of WR. now, to say Branch is within striking distance of any of those guys......no way. just no way in hell.

seattle is nuts. (numbers from sports guy on espn2 i think)

beef101 · One Testicle Guy

Seatle went after Branch because they are disappointed in the way Burleson is performing as well as his ability to pick up the offense. Branch will not reach super status with the Seahawks but he will be an upgrade over the ill-performing Burleson.

saturn11 · Head Dick

wow. penetrating analysis, beef.

did your degree come from harvard or yale?

the point isn't whether or not branch will be an upgrade. it's that seattle reached...overextended themselves (a number one? puh leeze), because they think they made a mistake w/ burleson.

JetBlackNinja · Head Dick

saturn11 wrote:

wow. penetrating analysis, beef. did your degree come from harvard or yale?

the point isn't whether or not branch will be an upgrade. it's that seattle reached...overextended themselves (a number one? puh leeze), because they think they made a mistake w/ burleson.

Not ONLY the 1st, but also the $39 mil with the $13 up front. That contract is a cap-buster.

Branch is a "catch-on-the-run" receiver. He turns his head back for the ball for a split second and full speed. If the ball isn't six inches from him when he turns he is basically "out of the play".

In this way Branch can only excel under an EXCELLENT Quarterback. Hasselbeck is a good QB, but I don't think he is as good as Brady, and Brady could never got 1,000 out of him.

Branch is "out of the play" way too often, that is some of the reason NE got a rep for "spreading the ball around".

When your #1 receiver takes himself out of a play, or can't beat a double-team, then you have to throw the ball elsewhere.

Plus the injuries. Seattle will live to regret the contract that the Pats were lucky enough to avoid.

I think.. either that or he goes to Seattle and turns into a mini-TO. This is the NFL so you never can guess.