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Pant-hers or Her-pants?


Which is it?

Will the highly touted, excellently coached, NFC-heir-apparents show up this year?

Or will it be the team in baby blue that got a$$reamed by a Mora coached team?

Will it be the Panthers, or the Her-pants?

Who among us has thoughts on this?

I'd love to know what actual Panthers fans think, or fans who are at least familiar with them....


-- Edited by saturn11 at 18:59, 2006-09-13

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Now I'm not a Panthers fan, but I'm expecting them to bounce back this week.

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Any idea what the hell happened last Sunday?

having very little respect for Jim Mora Jr. or mike vick may be clouding my judgement, but i was simply shocked.


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Easy answer to what happened. No Steve Smith, Atlanta does have a good defense (especially with no steve smith) and Vick had one of those "Barry Sanders with an arm" games. Remember, he has shredded them before.



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Yes, Atlanta HAS in fact, had a history of success against that team.  But I'm curious to know what you all think Carolina is gonna do this upcoming week against the Vikes.  I'm saying they bounce back, but I wanna see what y'all have to say?

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If last week is any indication, Childress has the vikes looking like a disciplined team that won't beat itself the way it used to in the past.

Carolina's got bounce-back momentum, a desire to right the ship, and will play hard after that stinging loss.

They're probably just too much for the Vikings if the play the way they're capable, but they could wind up in a dogfight if they underestimate them.

my guess: Panthers 21 Vikes 14.

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I'll go Panthers 23, Vikes 17

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First:


Her-Pants is the STUPIDEST attempt at a nick-name I have ever heard. Please never float that pile-o-sh1t again.


Second: They opened up with a loss to the Saints-of-Nowhere last year, and still ended up in the NFC Title game, so don't read too much into week 1.



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1. didn't think of the nickname...i've been hearing it since back when they BAH-LEW. never thought it was THAT bad, but hey, whatever.

2. you're right. they have started slow in the past.

HOWEVER: nobody's pointed out that they lost a key member of their offensive line last week, too. it may become a factor.


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saturn11 wrote:


1. didn't think of the nickname...i've been hearing it since back when they BAH-LEW. never thought it was THAT bad, but hey, whatever.

2. you're right. they have started slow in the past.

HOWEVER: nobody's pointed out that they lost a key member of their offensive line last week, too. it may become a factor.




 


Steal the SB moniker. Call them the "Powder Blue Injury Crew" or something. "Her-Pants" is god-awful.



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How about Carolina "Cupcakes"


Thats what they look like anyway.


 


Or instead of the Carolina Panthers they could be known as the "Cupcake Pumpers"


"Carawhiner Pansies"


"Carawina Pansies"


 I mean they are the only team with a French quarterback.




-- Edited by GoBearsGalason at 11:37, 2006-09-15

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Ninja, don't you have anything better to do than carp about a lame-assed nickname?

As i said, i didn't think up "her pants", i've just been hearing it around here for years. Given the girly Teal colored uniforms, and the way they played last week (the reverse of what we all expected), it just seemed the appropriate thing to trot out for a Topic line.

Had i known it would lead to a nickname discussion, I never would've used it.

Besides...Powder Blue Injury Crew? sheesh. Even "The Carolina Her-pants" is better than that.

Trying to MANUFACTURE a nickname is...like...one of the LAME-est things a sports fan can do. Lamer? Talking about nicknames.

Right now, every other call to the Philly sports talk radio station is some bozo w/ NOTHING to bring to the table except a REALLY LAME nickname idea for Ryan Howard. NOTHING more annoying.

So...anyway....back to football, maybe?

not only did they lose a key member of their O-line, but they've lost some defenders, too. Injury crew indeed.

This weekend will be interesting, no doubt. I really liked Childress while he was here, and it was CLEAR that he wanted to run the ball more than Reid did. Now it seems that the Vikes will run alot, and if Carolina is compromised by injuries to their front seven, this game could be tight.





-- Edited by saturn11 at 12:10, 2006-09-15

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I think Dan Morgan is out for this weekend, and Steve Smith is questionable.  But despite that, I still think they're gonna get the job done in Minnesota this Sunday.

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There are a lot of "if's" in this game. IF the Pantyliners defense can hold up against the run for four quarters, (the skins did'nt) IF Brad Johnson can keep up that insane 3rd down conversion rate,(IF the running game gets going earlier, he won't have to) and IF  Keyshawn can suddenly become a No. 1 receiver. I Think Not.


23-10 Vikes



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If Steve Smith plays Carolina wins, if not... they lose.


Delhomme (sp?) to Smith is like Culpepper to Moss.


Those QB's get so comfy with their uber-receiver that they forgot how to make the tough throws.



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could'nt have said it any better, and i tried.

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panthers got the raw deal schedule. the unknow was too much. injuries hit, starting LT, starting MLB, and all-world WR smitty. all were out after the first half. falcons out-coached, out-play out-everything the panthers. play calling was GREAT. cut back runs work perfectly. john abraham was a BEAST.


 


 



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BUT...Just remember that the Panthers have lost their opening game the past 2 seasons (and almost the past 3 if it weren't for 4th quarter comeback against Jacksonville), and they have bounced back with IMPRESSIVE performances in Week 2.  Last year, they knocked off the Pats, 27-17.  And the year before that, DeShaun Foster came up with a HUGE performance as they upset the Chiefs in KC, 28-17 (and YES, they were without Steve Smith in that game too!)  So I'm warning you folks, do NOT write this team off, because they usually play their best football when their backs are up against the wall.



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I don't think anybody's writing them off, it's clear though that they are just about JV without Mighty Mouse  and with the Pantyliners being the majority pick to go all the way AGAIN, they've got big targets on their backs. They can, but it aint gonna be easy.

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I think this game though is a MUST game for them, because if they end up 0-2, they may very well have dug themselves into a hole which, in that division, can be very difficult to get out of.

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I agree, the pressure will be on for Carolina to win this weekend given the current state of their division, with Atlanta suddenly emerging as a real threat. Though without, or using an unhealthy Steve Smith, they may get a little desperate in this game and give up some stupid yardage or bad deep passes for picks. Minnesota did look a lot more solid against Washington than what was expected, and I don't suspect that it was a fluke. Keep in mind that Troy Williamson dropped 2 50 yard plus bombs last week. He blew by a "peeking over the top" Sean Taylor several times. This guy is a genuine deep threat if Johnson can put a ball out far enough for him, and he can begin to concentrate and make those catches. If he does....Minnesota will prove to be a very dangerous opponent. That score was not truly reflective of how bad Washington was or how good Minnesota really is.


Because I am not entirely sold on Minnesota's ability to perform in such a manner consistently, coupled with a shoulder shrugging start last week, this game is virtually unbettable. I'm not sure that if Steve Smith plays that he will be effective against Minnesota. Hurting both hamstrings in the preseason will play on his psyche (should he play), and make him run and execute more gingerly so as not to aggravate his injury. Smith's abilities as a top tier rcvr are entirely contingent upon his ability to move and cut quickly. Keyshawn is nothing but a possession reciever, though a very good one with his precise route running and sure hands. Carolinas offensive prowess was predicated on the threat of a deep ball in Steve Smiths direction. This "threat" makes an otherwise pedestrian offense, look very very good. If that threat doesn't exist, or is compromised in any way, I suspect Carolina will have more problems this week.


Again. I have a real problem on betting for Minnesota, not far removed from a roller coaster season, new managment, new ownership, and new coaching, or betting against Carolina, given their meteoric rise to the upper echelon last year, or even betting for them with a hurt or a not playing Steve Smith. making this one a real coin flipper. Save your money on this game.



-- Edited by GoBearsGalason at 23:51, 2006-09-15

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If I were a betting man, I'd probably bet Carolina, because of their ability to come through with their backs up against the wall...WITH or WITHOUT Steve Smith. This is just ONE of the games that gives me the theme for this week's NFL action....DESPERATION SUNDAY!!!

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thinking that week 2 is desparation time is really funny-- nfc south teams have plenty of time to beat the crap out of each other and i seem to remember that the cats started 0-4 few years back and finished in playoffs. vikes are solid enough to hang and take this game, yet i'm not underestimating coach fox and look for a huge battle-- vikings are in the season for the long haul-- i wouldn't put it on cruise control if the bears fans know what i'm sayin.

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I think the mistake people seem to make is that they take the results of Week 1 way too seriously.  I mean it's hard to base the fate of a team on just 1 game b/c things always change drastically in this league from week to week.

-- Edited by Vanni9283 at 12:06, 2006-09-17

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Vanni wrote:


I think this game though is a MUST game for them, because if they end up 0-2, they may very well have dug themselves into a hole which, in that division, can be very difficult to get out of.

then a few posts later, he wrote:

Vanni9283 wrote:

I think the mistake people seem to make is that they take the results of Week 1 way too seriously.  I mean it's hard to base the fate of a team on just 1 game b/c things always change drastically in this league from week to week.



i could be a dik and say, "well, which is it?"

but i could see why you would say both of these things. they're not mutually exclusive concepts. being 0-2 with a division loss IS an undesirable spot. it can eff with the confidence / chemistry of a fragile team and send a promising season into a tailspin. but at the same time, it's not insurmountable, and carolina's been through enough adversity to let it roll off their backs.


-- Edited by saturn11 at 12:26, 2006-09-17

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But in that NFC South, you don't wanna be 0-2.  Things do change from week-to-week, but now, you've got a pretty significant hole that you gotta dig yourself out of.  I don't think it's gonna be insurmountable for Carolina to dig themselves out of it, but I do think they put themselves in a tough spot right now.

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Vanni9283 wrote:


If I were a betting man, I'd probably bet Carolina, because of their ability to come through with their backs up against the wall...WITH or WITHOUT Steve Smith. This is just ONE of the games that gives me the theme for this week's NFL action....DESPERATION SUNDAY!!!


You woulda lost.

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I know.  It looks like all of a sudden, Carolina has turned into a team that can't stop the run!

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Hmmmm....0 and 2.

Pundits, Predictors, and rednecks in teal colored Kerry Collins or Rae Carruth t-shirts ready to end it all.

Silver lining: give the bulk of the carries to DeAngelo Williams. He's clearly got a step on Foster, and better instincts. It might help them keep the ball on the field until Steve Smith can get back into the mix.

-- Edited by saturn11 at 09:53, 2006-09-19

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Well, they're playing a team this Sunday whose offense has scored a whopping 3 points in 2 games!  So maybe they can get something going.

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