I have a "small dog". It's my little buddy. That is what a dog is meant to be, not a status symbol, not a weapon.
Just a buddy that hangs around.
In my life I have been attcked by 1 Pit Bull, and my fiance has been attacked by 1 Pit Bull. Both of us have come into contact with any number of dogs (thousands), but in both cases we have only been attacked once, and in both cases it was the same breed of dog.
Something tells me this probably is not a coincidence.
Just for the record, I hope you understand dogs are not "MEANT" to be your lil buddies anymore than they are meant to be status symbols, or weapons, or the "pork" in our fried rice.
Well buying a dog to compensate for your tiny little dinky (I'm talking to you owners of Pit Bulls, Rottweilers, Presa Canarios) is the "wrong" reason to buy a dog, I was just juxtaposing against that for argument's sake.
I grew up with a Rottwieler that was a gentle dog and only protective of his family, so get off your high horse on proclaiming that certain breeds of dogs are "killers", and yeah I am going to use the cliche its not the dog, its the owner...
Screw Denver....it is a stupid law! As I've said before restrict the sale of breeding animals so the idiots fighting them and can't get breeding animals.
The arguement that the breed should be banned is idiotic....okay Pits are dangerous...imagine if they bred the same aggression into St Benards....ever see cujo? Rodesian Ridgebacks...great Danes?...these are freakin HUGE dogs. You think a mean Pit is bad....how about a 300 pound mastiff? thats what they used to fight in the old days....and would be again if you banned PIT Bulls.....I'll say it again....ban dog fighting....make it a class X...15 years for getting busted fighting or breeding pit bulls.
these animals who train these dogs are the worst of humanity, they steal peoples pet dogs(of any size) and throw them in with thier Pits so the Pits can gain confidence....then when the peoples pet dogs are ripped up they throw them in the river or abandon them in the streets.
going back to the clever little picture gobears did of the 2 rednecks, I will tell you with absolutely no qualms, ever happens to my dogs...I will be blowing them away and will face whatever music I have to for the deed.....these aren't my pets they are my family......and believe it or not many regular people who own Pits feel the exact same way
We need pitbulls to keep the midget population down. They've been trying to ride our dogs like they were horses for too long now, I'm glad a breed out there finally grew the balls to say enough is enough.
PS- My best friend is a midget so I can say whatever I want about them.
Dwarf tossing was big in Jersey back in the late 80's.......I'm sorry they banned it. I mean how many Willie wonka movies are they going to make....Dwarfs got to make a living some how
It's not just backyard breeders, but backyard pit fighting. The sport is not the B.S. tough guy crap you see in the news. These are very tough dogs with very strong owners and it is more akin to boxing than gladiator games (lions vs. Christians and such). The turds who take peoples dogs as bait are scum of the earth had have no place in the respectable world of dogfighting.
As a matter of fact, unlike "say der wuz dis manies pitsboos and dis many biteses", ****er spaniels record the most bites needing medical attention in the US....... by a wide margin. Unfortunately their owners blame the kids and people who get bitten. Most likely so do you. No dog should ever show human aggression without being put down. End of story, end of discussion.
But of course a pitbull shows human aggression and you get by far worse damage, but the mentality is the same. Until the mentality changes it won't matter what dog you ban or eradicate, another will pop up that attacks humans and it will only depend on the size whether or not idots run around banning them as well. Another fact lost in this overwhelming media hysteria, MOST pitbulls are fine. It is not a common news story or event and the popularity has produced unbelieveable numbers of them.
They are awesome family dogs and their high pain threshold make them excellent guard dogs, the only time they should ever show any human aggression. Those stories NEVER make the news and with courts handing down decisions like siding with a criminal who sues for falling down the stairs of the place he was robbing it probably wouldn't matter. But for that purpose the city would be the best place for the ones who are bred and raised correctly. Stray bullets kill waaayyyyyyyy more people than all the dogs put together.
What should be done? I doubt you could do much, but this insurance crap is not the way. I would say it needs to be a licensed privelege to own and you need so many hours of classes and training to get that license. Even more so for breeders of any breed. Charge money for all of it and use that to find the backyard scum breeders.
Eradicate all members of PETA and any others who believe these are just "furry little people" and deserve the same rights. They don't, they are cattle and should be treated that way. We all have special favorites, but when it's time to make the tough decision it has to be made quickly with humans needs taking precedence.
Beyond that? It's a fukin miniature horse. They are absolutely useless beasts that were only bred for women who never got out of their dolly stage (my father in law has some, they suck). Hell, the best mini (as these four legged fags are referred to) cost about $2000. About the same as a real good dog. Compare that to the best horse that will cost somewhere in the millions. They are disposable and Porter can buy his neighbor a whole herd on one game day check.
A miniature horse is not a person though. With dogs you can never say what if it had been a child. They know the difference, they have an animal aggressive instinct. The only reason bullmastiffs, bulldogs, and the like don't is because their temperament has been washed out of them. They have been bred by show people not dog people. They no longer have a purpose. Nice dogs, except for the bulldog, that they just flat out ruined. It's probably more useless than a miniature horse.
A couple last questions. When you and your girlfriend were "attacked", did you meet at the same hospital? Or was this just you painting a scary picture in your head as you ran screaming and peeing your pants based on the myths and legends you heard? No wonder you got a canine version of a cat, you're a pussy.
OMFG...the second I saw your post i assumed it would be the absolute opposite of what i said...we agree up to the point of the proffesional dog fighters, while they do take better care of the animals (as you said...treated like prizefighters), as long as they are allowed to fight their dogs there will be idiots who will want to do it small time....and THOSE are the ones that steal dogs to bait thiers, also the ones that will end up utterly ruining the breed....
the few people I have known who fought dogs were low, ignorant people...who wanted a tough mean dog because those were properties that they were lacking personally.
a friend of mine got rotated out to Denver for 3 weeks (she's a dancer) and she had a rednose Pit, neutered, the friendliest and the best behaved dog i have been around, her roomate was walking it when they confiscated it, WOULD not return it and put it down, she was only visiting and they killed her dog.....worst law ever.
This is something I take very seriously. The laws they have now do more harm than good. Ohio recently laxed their BSL on pitbulls, which is nice, but haven't addressed the real issue yet.
Stopping professionals from fighting will do nothing for stopping the idiots. If the idiots idolized these dogmen they would be much smarter about what they are doing. Blame rappers or the media that gives them so many outlets.
I don't fight dogs, my breed is a hunter, catch dog in fact . But it gets confused for a giant pitbull and ends up on these ban lists for no reason. It's rare and I don't ever want to let idiots know about them and ruin them either. I had my female fixed when I lived in the city to make sure nobody ever got a pup from her, and all the scumbags wanted to cross her with their fukked up pit. But the guys who know what they are doing wouldn't have bothered with her because they know what they got and wouldn't want to dilute their lines with an unknown.
I agree that it's not the professionals that are ruining the breed or causing the problem, it is the jerks that can't buy a pair of pants that won't fall of thier azz, of all races. But to stop the jeks you have to have very strong laws against it and unfortunately would have to include the Pros. Unfortunately the ones making the laws know nothing about it so you get phucked up laws.
As a long time owner of Dobies I watched the breed slide downhill at the hands of backyard breeders, it has been a long climb back and has took the breeders banning together and NOT selling breedable dogs to the general public. In order to keep thier breed from being banned totally, I hope they do the same with Pits.
{have no place in the respectable world of dogfighting.}........WTF are you talking about. I thought your post was a joke.....but i think you are serious now.
Respectable "world" of dogfighting ??? What "world" do you live in guy ? That is fukd up......and I think you got some serious issues. Big time social disorder
I know.....I know....I know....its a sport and not about the money. Bullshiiit ...and you know its true.
The extra cash from pooch fighten might help you land that double wide trailer you've had your eye on for some time. A couple of consecutive wins just might be enough extra coin to take the wife to the "all you can eat buffet" you have been promisen her . Maybe...if your dog mames real well....you can get the new used 1986 f-250...now that would be sweet.
Bottom line guy....your world.... is the friggin gutter...enjoy
I agree that it's not the professionals that are ruining the breed or causing the problem, it is the jerks that can't buy a pair of pants that won't fall of thier azz, of all races. But to stop the jeks you have to have very strong laws against it and unfortunately would have to include the Pros. Unfortunately the ones making the laws know nothing about it so you get phucked up laws.
As a long time owner of Dobies I watched the breed slide downhill at the hands of backyard breeders, it has been a long climb back and has took the breeders banning together and NOT selling breedable dogs to the general public. In order to keep thier breed from being banned totally, I hope they do the same with Pits.
It is against the law in the US, as far as I know. The pros have underground matches here. Very hush hush and no pootbutts get in to watch. But there are other places they can and do go.
The ghetto scum have only heard of it or seen a backyard version of it in a video. But then they got sh!tty parents so maybe they need to get banned, fixed, or just eradicated. Kill the sh!tty parents, their sh!tty kids, and all the sh!tty dogs they created. I'm all for that because they don't just fuk up dogs, but everything they touch.
{have no place in the respectable world of dogfighting.}........WTF are you talking about. I thought your post was a joke.....but i think you are serious now.
Respectable "world" of dogfighting ??? What "world" do you live in guy ? That is fukd up......and I think you got some serious issues. Big time social disorder
I know.....I know....I know....its a sport and not about the money. Bullshiiit ...and you know its true.
The extra cash from pooch fighten might help you land that double wide trailer you've had your eye on for some time. A couple of consecutive wins just might be enough extra coin to take the wife to the "all you can eat buffet" you have been promisen her . Maybe...if your dog mames real well....you can get the new used 1986 f-250...now that would be sweet.
Bottom line guy....your world.... is the friggin gutter...enjoy
What are you talking about? It's okay for two dudes to get all sweaty and punch on each other or "rassle" around, or 22 guys to pound away on each other fightin for the ol' pigskin strutting around like pea****s every time they hurt someone on the field because it arouses you, ya fukin homo? But two dogs fighting each other showing more heart than ANY human athlete has ever had is wrong? You don't even know what you're talking about for one, and for two since when is sport all about the sport? This ain't art for art's sake you faggot. Of course there's money.
I've read your sh!t spunkmonkey, don't ever question my morals or ethics. You are the scum that rests in the gutter of the world. Now find your way back through your piles of gay porn in your Kensington efficiency and get back to trolling for children on the local library's free computer. Or is your only purpose to critique people who are better than you?
Your sh!t's tired and old, trailers and buffets? You just have no clue. I'd give you props if you knew enough to be clever, sadly you're just a PFT lackey, "Here's a nudder pic mista Florio, wanna go tuh Red Lobster? My treat!"
{have no place in the respectable world of dogfighting.}........WTF are you talking about. I thought your post was a joke.....but i think you are serious now.
Respectable "world" of dogfighting ??? What "world" do you live in guy ? That is fukd up......and I think you got some serious issues. Big time social disorder
I know.....I know....I know....its a sport and not about the money. Bullshiiit ...and you know its true.
The extra cash from pooch fighten might help you land that double wide trailer you've had your eye on for some time. A couple of consecutive wins just might be enough extra coin to take the wife to the "all you can eat buffet" you have been promisen her . Maybe...if your dog mames real well....you can get the new used 1986 f-250...now that would be sweet.
Bottom line guy....your world.... is the friggin gutter...enjoy
What are you talking about? It's okay for two dudes to get all sweaty and punch on each other or "rassle" around, or 22 guys to pound away on each other fightin for the ol' pigskin strutting around like pea****s every time they hurt someone on the field because it arouses you, ya fukin homo? But two dogs fighting each other showing more heart than ANY human athlete has ever had is wrong? You don't even know what you're talking about for one, and for two since when is sport all about the sport? This ain't art for art's sake you faggot. Of course there's money.
I've read your sh!t spunkmonkey, don't ever question my morals or ethics. You are the scum that rests in the gutter of the world. Now find your way back through your piles of gay porn in your Kensington efficiency and get back to trolling for children on the local library's free computer. Or is your only purpose to critique people who are better than you?
Your sh!t's tired and old, trailers and buffets? You just have no clue. I'd give you props if you knew enough to be clever, sadly you're just a PFT lackey, "Here's a nudder pic mista Florio, wanna go tuh Red Lobster? My treat!"
The HUGE flaw in your analogy is that humans are WILLING participants in the sports you mentioned above. These fighting dogs are not looking for eachother to fight. They get taken to these events and then they end up fighting. Now you may say, see MB, they fight because it's natural. The problem is, when animals fight in nature, there is no direct human intervention.
The HUGE flaw in your analogy is that humans are WILLING participants in the sports you mentioned above. These fighting dogs are not looking for eachother to fight. They get taken to these events and then they end up fighting. Now you may say, see MB, they fight because it's natural. The problem is, when animals fight in nature, there is no direct human intervention.
The HUGE flaw is yours my friend. These fighting dogs ARE looking to fight each other. 300 years of breeding has ingrained it in their temperament. Up until recently human aggression was not a part of that temperament. If it showed it, it was killed, end of issue. Backyard breeding has allowed it to survive. That is why it happens, not because the breed is bad, just the breeders who don't cull these anomolies. Idiots like Porter don't secure the animals they have, that is also a problem. Not the breed.
I think you have a backyard understanding of what dogfighting is really about. Animals in nature fight for their lives, completely different. Do some research before exposing your limited view. Better to be ignorant and quiet than open your mouth and prove it.
Are you really THAT dense to suggest that these animals are "LOOKING" for eachother to fight? I'm going to go out on a limb and say you're a fvcking idiot. Do they talk to eachother and set up fights on their own? No, you d1ckface, HUMANS are arranging these fights. That HUMAN intervention is what is what is ethically wrong.
I'm not arguing about their tempermant towards humans or if they are bad dogs, I have no idea why you even bring it up in response to my statement.
I think you have a backyard understanding of what Reading Comprehension is really about. You see what I did there?
Are you really THAT dense to suggest that these animals are "LOOKING" for eachother to fight? I'm going to go out on a limb and say you're a fvcking idiot. Do they talk to eachother and set up fights on their own? No, you d1ckface, HUMANS are arranging these fights. That HUMAN intervention is what is what is ethically wrong.
I'm not arguing about their tempermant towards humans or if they are bad dogs, I have no idea why you even bring it up in response to my statement.
I think you have a backyard understanding of what Reading Comprehension is really about. You see what I did there?
Pathetic. Do boxers find their own fights d!ckface? Do "rasslers" find their own matches kunt? Do football players build their own stadiums and find their own games you giant fukin gash? No, uhhhh no, and errrr uhhhh NO!
So what's the difference now? Some money grubbin' fuk says "You wanna get paid to risk injury that may shorten your career and affect your quality of life to entertain some idiots?" and the genius says "Duhm, dotay!"
Is that how you rationalize your own ignorance?
I bring up temperament so no idiot like yourself compares their fighting with each other temperament to how they are dangerous to people. Duhhhhh get it? Or are you just angry that I put too many words in and your wittle head can't handle it?
I'll await your next ignorant, misunderstood, misinformed, pathetic rant blaming my ability to read to excuse the lack of wrinkles in your own gray matter. (ask someone to explain that, it's all scientific and sh!t)
1. Boxers WILLFULLY hire people to arrange fights for them.
2. "Rasslers" WILLFULLY join organizations so they can "rassle".
3. Football players WILLFULLY train to play football.
4. Still don't see the difference? I'll spell it out for you: All of the above WILLFULLY engage in actions that may be detrimental to their health while these fighting dogs do not. Your stupid fvcking reasoning would only make sense if boxers, wrestlers, and football players were being FORCED to do something dangerous.
1. Boxers WILLFULLY hire people to arrange fights for them.
2. "Rasslers" WILLFULLY join organizations so they can "rassle".
3. Football players WILLFULLY train to play football.
4. Still don't see the difference? I'll spell it out for you: All of the above WILLFULLY engage in actions that may be detrimental to their health while these fighting dogs do not. Your stupid fvcking reasoning would only make sense if boxers, wrestlers, and football players were being FORCED to do something dangerous.
Ohhh? The boxers hire the people? Interesting.
Beyond that, sure they "willfully" do these things, but of course some have no other measurable skill, even if they did "graduate" from college and this is their best chance at attaining their "American Dream". But they "willfully" do that instead of "willfully" cleaning grease traps or picking up trash, or "willfully" sell drugs with the inherent danger of police and guns. Yes life is full of wonderful options for every human being, right?
Are their careers "willfully" shortened and then are taken care of by these same people they "hire" that don't explain the consequences before signing on the bottom line because they dazzled them with ideas of glory and fortune? Or are they dumped in favor of the next big payday, left to fend for themselves in a world they don't understand because these people they "hired" kept the truth, if not the money, from them for their own gain?
The point, not the one on top of your head, that you are missing is that these dogs DO willfully fight. Put them in the ring, like a boxer and they do what they were bred to do. A human need not ask a dog to fullfill its destiny. It is that simplistic when it comes to animals.
I'll give you credit though. You are as tenacious as any pitbull when it comes to exposing your own ignorance. Have fun at your PETA meeting, fur is murder! D!ck
lol I don't even know what to respond to such a stupidly thought out response, I feel like I'm beating up on a retarded kid. Ok Corky, you win, please stop drooling now.
lol I named all my toes! I don't even know what I'm talking about, I feel like you're beating up on a retarded kid. Ok I'm Corky, you win, I'll never stop drooling. I can't even keep my giant tongue in my mouth. Wanna hang out and give strangers great big hugs?
Fixed that for you.
I love how you quit and then blame me for your inability to grasp it. It's just precious!
I grew up with a Rottwieler that was a gentle dog and only protective of his family, so get off your high horse on proclaiming that certain breeds of dogs are "killers", and yeah I am going to use the cliche its not the dog, its the owner...
Then we agree, it is the owner. Any person who would own a dog like that is a retard. That is a reference to the OWNER.