"in the respectable world of dogfighting."....or how about "in the respectable world of child molestation" ....WTF. Just because you are a card carrying MANBLA member...doesnt make it respectable

no difference.......you are still a fukd up individual

PS Most serial killers starting off by torturing & killing animals for no reason at a young age

lost in iowa wrote:

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no the breed is not violent....various strains of the breed is violent.

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No the rice isn't toxic, just certain [I]grains[/I] in the rice are toxic. Go ahead and eat it, you'll probably be fine.

 

Idiot, thanks for proing my point. As Lost in Iowa PROVES here, ignorant rednecks will come a runnin' to defend their guns, trucks, killin' dogs, and various other white trash staples (I love trailer park life!).

lost in iowa wrote:

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I am against dog-fighting in any form...period. They used to fight dogs against other animals, when it was outlawed, they fought them against each other. Both sides do have valid points, Shack is correct that fighting dogs will go out and look up fights, which is why Pit Bulls are so prevelant in the dog attacks.....and that animals DO fight in the wild.

But the flaw in Shacks arguement is the same one that ****-fighters have....yes roosters will fight in the barnyard, as dogs WILL fight in the wild....but rarely to major injury and almost never to the death! You put them in a pit so the one losing can't escape, which they do in the wild, or in the open. That is the difference and the one that counts.

Now the arguement for dog fighting is the owners love to see a good fight...showing heart and strength. But of the people I have known involved in this crap, I have never seen any of these "lovers of a good fight" in one personally, take it as you will...but anyone who lets his animals fight instead of him is a coward. If they like a good fight I suggest they strap on some gloves and climb in a ring....but regardless how these cowards have twisted this breed, the truth still remains....it's the breeders not the breed.

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Actually there is no flaw in my argument. This is what they were bred for, unlike the many possibilities afforded to humans to "willfully" choose, although our unnatural selection has created many a ditch digger, this dogs destiny is limited and not necessarily worth continuing, they can be adjusted to different jobs and make excellent stock for a more complete breed though and they can and do live with other dogs just fine depending on the owner.

But there is a difference in a dog adapting to another job and performing its destined work. Just as a hunting dog that never hunts remains for all intents and purposes a juvenile and incomplete. Incomplete dogs cannot be counted on to pass on correct traits. But then if not for that they would all look like their wild counterparts because it is the juvenile nature that has created the different colorations usually reserved for puppies of wild dogs. Of course then you're getting into hundreds of years of breeding for purpose and selecting colorations and temperaments.

The difference in ****-fighting and animals in the wild is it's an act of dominance. Natural selection so the best gets breeding rights and such, and yes they do kill if that's the only way to get rid of the competition. The pitbull has 300 years or so of breeding to fight each other. The ones owned by professionals, and I mean big cars, fancy homes, and private jets type of people, are completely different from the distorted versions seen in the ghettos. It is a fight to submission, not death. The owner chooses whether or not to cull a dog for not performing up to standard. But these dogs, as vicious as they are to each other are pulled off by humans, and while dangerous when locked together show no aggresion to the owner immediately afterwards and when taken home are content to play with the children and cats with no aggresion at all. If you've never seen a dog after performing its intended work, or destiny, then you have no idea what it means to see a mature dog.

I'm not an advocate of dogfighting, regardless of what some simpletons want to read into it. Not for the reasons being stated by others, but for the reason that the destiny they have been bred for is worthless to anyone but the fans of dogfighting. Same goes for lapdogs, useless sh!ts. Hunters hunt and therefore their destiny and purpose is to enable itself and its owner to sustain themselves. It's symbiotic and natural necessity. Every breed will fight amongst themselves for dominance, but this breed has been bred for that explicit purpose, fighting. They have been excellent stock for hunting breeds that require them to engage their prey and they can do other things, but as a breed their destiny is useless without human involvement.

But like Iowa says, you can ban or even eradicate this breed and people will use another, or even create another and terriers will be that base. They are a tenacious breed by nature and breeding smaller ones with bigger ones and other breeding tactics will create it. No law anywhere can put a stop to human nature, so quit whining about the breed and let's blow up the ghettos and cull the sh!tty humans who breed and sell sh!tty dogs. That is where the problem lies.

-- Edited by shack at 09:36, 2006-09-26

Whats worth shooting once....is worth shooting twice...or more. Double tap next time

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JetBlackNinja wrote:

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lost in iowa wrote:

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 You can control the breeding habits of a dog (that should be obvious  even to you, due to the fact...thats how Pits got this way in the first place) The problem with Pit bull attacks is due mainly to the breeding habits of the last 20 years....due you really think it couldn't be reversed in the same time?

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I am not willing to risk another innocent child so that you bumpkins can undo your mess.

Here are but 1 example of why the mass-culling of the Pit Bull population in American should not be delayed even 1 more hour, not to mention 20 years.

 

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8266084177723783638

 

 

 

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That doesn't prove sh!t but that ghettos need to be wiped out. You think only pitbulls do that? You're kidding yourself if you think that's exclusive to pitbulls. Any sh!tty dog would do the same.

I hope your as adamant about guns. A 5 year old was shot the other day in Philly, and other places I'm sure, but nobody's banning the guns are they? Maybe we need more videos of that. Maybe the sh!tty pitbulls are there to protect from all the sh!tty people in those ghettos. Easier to get a dog than a gun. Wipe 'em out (Ghettos) and many problems get solved.

If I post a video of a black guy robbing someone, or shooting someone will you argue for culling all black people as well?

-- Edited by shack at 12:13, 2006-09-26

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The theme to that post was "Dueling Banjos" as performed by the Rednecks from Deliverance.

Look I know how important things like this can be to ghetto bunnies and rednecks, but rational people know a "bad egg" when they see one, and Pit Bulls are the bad egg of the canine world. I don't expect you to recognize that... but next time you wonder why people call you ignorant.

see....this is what happens when someone who doesn't know what they are talking about, keeps talking. Have you EVER seen a mastiff?...enlarge that Pit bull about 4 to 5 times. Big aggressive and damn unstoppable, but instead of a Kid it could do it to a full grown man....throw you around like a rag.

 You continue to lump Shack and I together due to 2 things....the fact that we don't believe ANY breed should be eradicated, and that you don't know what you're talking about. Use you PC for something for a change...go out and look up the really BIG breeds, imagine them with the aggression of a Pit, all it takes is about 20 or 30 years of selective breeding.

 It is obvious that either Shack is into Pit fighting or closely knows someone who is. Either way listen to what he says....REMOVE PITS .....THEY WILL FIGHT SOMETHING ELSE! wiping out Pits only treats a symptom, and takes away peoples dogs that are in many cases parts of thier family, also punishing an entire breed for what breeders have done to a few of them.

PS..Nice article Shack, and I'll bet none of the clowns for eradication could pick out the Pit Bull either....so continueing on the line of thier misthought....just kill them all...every breed that any moron might mistake for a Pit Bull.....sweet.

Now i don't know your race...creed or color, and it don't matter. Because whatever you are you would hate to be lumped together with the very worst of your race and judged in mass. Not all blacks are crack junkies who will mug you, not all Muslims want to blow you up....not all white people are KKK card carrying hicks....not all Asians are smart....not all Native Americans are drunks....not all Pit Bulls are mean...not all Pit Bulls need destroyed...period. To say otherwise is retarded in any of the above cases.

-- Edited by lost in iowa at 16:57, 2006-09-26

By the way goon, Gladwell writes articles on trending and society (have your mother explain it to you). I have read every word he ever wrote. He is a New York intellectual and has no expertise in the field of dogs or violence.

I can write an article on the spread offense, it doesn't make me Jim Mora.

JetBlackNinja wrote:

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By the way goon, Gladwell writes articles on trending and society (have your mother explain it to you). I have read every word he ever wrote. He is a New York intellectual and has no expertise in the field of dogs or violence.

I can write an article on the spread offense, it doesn't make me Jim Mora.

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HI, DUNCE! My name is reading comprehension! Let's get acquainted, apparently for the FIRST time!

It REFERRED to an article by him where he CITED a test done on dogs by a group in Georgia. It did NOT say he was an authority on the subject.

That's all you could find though? From all that you pick a writer whose article was cited? Just admit you're a giant retard incapable of complex thought or humility and we wont have to send the people over so your seed does not propagate.