I think that the NFL should send a message to the players by suspending hanesworth for the remainder of the year. it is unacceptable that he be allowed to hurt someone like he did and continue to play. Florio is right, it is time to start cleaning up the league from all of the arrests.
He should be suspende for the year and have what salary he has made so far be the fine he should recieve. Also criminal charges should be filed and no community service BS, jail time baby!
Wow you guys a a bunch of pu$$ies. It's a violent game, played by large, angry (juiced?) men. Once every so often someone is going to pop off and do something way out of line.
He should be suspended (2 games sounds fair), and he should have to answer to local law enforcement, but at the end of the day it Assault, or Assualt with a Deadly Weapon on the outside.
Tons of NFL guys do worse to the tiny women they live with, I have yet to anyone react strongly over that. At least the guy on the field knows what he is into, and that he COULD even die playing football. These wives, girlfriends, and mothers deserve the outrage, but never get it. 1 player gets hurt on TV, and it's witch-hunt time.
ninja sometimes yer input is right on, but not this time. c'mon yer smarter than that! this is a perfect oppurtunity for the new regime to make a major statement. and it would be justified too. the guy helped rip his helmet off,and then stomped him not once , but twice. not even butkus or nitchke woulda done that. out for the year, and yes, let the police get involved. you let stuff like this go and pretty soon you're the bengals or vikes. stop the bleeding already. i want a game that is played clean, tough, and competitivley. not this Playmaker drama crap we're seein' now.
Wow you guys a a bunch of pu$$ies. It's a violent game, played by large, angry (juiced?) men. Once every so often someone is going to pop off and do something way out of line.
He should be suspended (2 games sounds fair), and he should have to answer to local law enforcement, but at the end of the day it Assault, or Assualt with a Deadly Weapon on the outside.
Tons of NFL guys do worse to the tiny women they live with, I have yet to anyone react strongly over that. At least the guy on the field knows what he is into, and that he COULD even die playing football. These wives, girlfriends, and mothers deserve the outrage, but never get it. 1 player gets hurt on TV, and it's witch-hunt time.
Y'all B1tches.
Your arguement is ridiculous. Sure, I'm a pussy. I work behind a computer all day long and don't play pro-football. I don't try to pretand to be something I'm not. Yes, these players sometime beat up their women, but not on national TV. This was seen by EVERYONE. It should not be tolerated in any form, just because "football's a rough sport". Boxing is rough, and Holyfield didn't deserve to have his ear chewed off.
Ninja, If you work for a living, anwser this question.
You are having an argument with one of your co-workers, so you slap them upside the head(and maybe draw alittle blood), just cause they piss you off. They didn't do anything to warrant it.
5 games is enough. The big factor that I must agree with ESPN on is that at least he showed remorse instead of cooking up some dumb exuse or trying to blame someone else. I don't agree you make this guy an example because behavior like this is uncommon. If they want to make an example out of a player make it out of one of the guys who gets pulled over for drinking and driving because that is the reoccuring and extremely dangerous behavior that needs to be addressed. I think the NFL did a good, swift job of handling this. Haynesworth's name and reputation will be tarnished as long as he plays and maybe a more clever player will be looking to give him a taste. Karma is a bitch.
Wow you guys a a bunch of pu$$ies. It's a violent game, played by large, angry (juiced?) men. Once every so often someone is going to pop off and do something way out of line.
He should be suspended (2 games sounds fair), and he should have to answer to local law enforcement, but at the end of the day it Assault, or Assualt with a Deadly Weapon on the outside.
Tons of NFL guys do worse to the tiny women they live with, I have yet to anyone react strongly over that. At least the guy on the field knows what he is into, and that he COULD even die playing football. These wives, girlfriends, and mothers deserve the outrage, but never get it. 1 player gets hurt on TV, and it's witch-hunt time.
Y'all B1tches.
Are you fu##ing kidding Ninja? Haynesworth took off the guys helmet, kicked him, and stomped on his head...Yes its a violent game, people break sh#t and knock people out, which is great, within the rules of the game...This is similar to the Bartuzzi hockey incident and it should be treated just the same with a lengthy suspension, healthy fine, and possibly assault charges...Ninja that was an idiotic post...
I think we are all being a bit harsh; people are saying he should be brought up on charges, suspended for a year and take away his livelihood, that's just extreme. I don't think he did this maliciously. Even his former college teammate, TE Jason Witten of the Cowboys said this was out of character for him.
Hey Titans love, get your lips off of haynesworths dink and wake the fuk up. Act without thinking and hurt someone and you get yourself into a fukn pickle. Thats the way it is. Out of character? WTF? So the character assessment of one person that isn't an idiot is enough for you? THE GUY STEPPED On ANOTHER MANS FACE WITH METAL CLEATS YOU FUKN HOMER...NO i'M SORRY, DRAGGED HIS FOOT ACROSS ANOTHER MANS FACE...TWICE.
It's not a matter of being a Homer, I didn't say what he did was okay, I never excused his actions. I'm saying to say that he should be arrested and suspended for a year is extreme. When I said Jason Witten said it was out of character, I am giving an example from a person WHO KNOWS Haynesworth personally, I would think he would know Haynesworth better than anyone of us.
Titanslove wrote: It's not a matter of being a Homer, I didn't say what he did was okay, I never excused his actions. I'm saying to say that he should be arrested and suspended for a year is extreme. When I said Jason Witten said it was out of character, I am giving an example from a person WHO KNOWS Haynesworth personally, I would think he would know Haynesworth better than anyone of us.
Don't worry about being a Homer in front of GoBears, if it was Tommy Harris that did this, GoBears would be in here commending him for "doing whatever it takes to win".
They should have sent him packing for the season.....if he would have just gashed him the one time maybe 5 games....but Dude pulled it up aimed it and trounced on the guys head. You guys are clueless.....how long would he have been suspended for if he would have lit up a joint on the sidelines and paraded around smoking it....my bet is he would have been suspended for even longer...
There should be criminal charges filed...it was a super cheap shot by a guy who has done it before, and Titanslove...how many games suspension will you want when some O-lineman intentionally leg whips this piece of crap out of the league? or a pair of them do a sweet crack-back block?...you'll be the one singing a different tune, but if it is handled properly that is exactly what he will have coming for the rest of the year, especially if they played by the old tough guys rules....this punk wouldn't last the season.
IOWA, I always expected better from you. I can't believe what softies (for lack of a better term) we have become. What was said when Dick Butkus/Jack Lambert or the likes did this type of thing EVERY GAME???? As a Nation we have become weak. Don't get me wrong I DONT CONDONE this, but man its FOOTBALL. A VIOLENT SPORT! JBNinja has it right. Time to get back to what we were leave the poouss shiot in the 90's!
in the old days they had ways to retaliate without being burned by it....this guy was off the field and gone before any teammate got a chance to retaliate, what would have been your take if one of his teammates would have taken his helmet off and busted him upside the head....same crime. In the old days, dude would have been carried off the field...crippled for life...these players are worth too much $ to the teams today for them to let that happen, same thing with putting a dress on the QB...too much $
I have heard the arguement from many on this board, that the Ricky Williams in the world should be gone, out of the league, they are adult men....millionaires, role models ect....how is this case any different? Is he an adult?..a millionaire?...a role model?
did he not, in a little tizzy about getting beat, help rip the helmet off of a prone player? and then take advantage of it by creasing his dome not once but twice with his cleats? you get suspended for 4 games for testing positive for any drug...you really don't think this is worse?
Myself I would have loved to see the retaliation, but with the salary cap and the cost of player salaries, the owners pay the salaries, they make up the rules, In the time of "oh my god, you smoke pot you're out for the year", I think this stuff, coming from a guy with a history of attacks on players, should get bounced for the same amount of time
Maggot wrote: IOWA, I always expected better from you. I can't believe what softies (for lack of a better term) we have become. What was said when Dick Butkus/Jack Lambert or the likes did this type of thing EVERY GAME???? As a Nation we have become weak. Don't get me wrong I DONT CONDONE this, but man its FOOTBALL. A VIOLENT SPORT! JBNinja has it right. Time to get back to what we were leave the poouss shiot in the 90's!
Maggot, you got it wrong. Butkus and Lambert didn't do that thing every game. They beat the tar out of people and got in cheap shots as the play occurred. NOT AFTER. Big difference. Boxing is a violent sport, and ear biting shouldn't be allowed either.
Don't worry about being a Homer in front of GoBears, if it was Tommy Harris that did this, GoBears would be in here commending him for "doing whatever it takes to win".
Thats smash mouth football....literally....thats how da Bears play though......YOU DIDN'T KNOW THAT!!
What Haynesworth did was a criminal act. Being a 300-plus pound man and stomping on the head of someone who is lying down and completely defenseless could be interpreted as attempted murder. Honestly, he very well could have killed a man on the field sunday.
I spent 12 years working as a bouncer in bars and strip clubs, which gave me a lot of leeway in beating people up, but not that much! I have had to defend my actions in court and I have seen co-workers go to jail because their actions went over the line and became "criminal".To those who say that football is a violent sport and these things happen, bouncing is a violent job but there is a line that you don't cross and haynesworth crossed that line.
apparently, the local authorities have stated that charges will only be filed if Andre Gurode wishes to press charges.
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This guy should be with out pay be suspended for the rest of the year. This has nothing to do with being "Pu**ies" Has Nothing to do with Joe Blo who works in the corner office!!
This is no different the Todd Bertuzzi, Ron Artest, or any of these " Larger Than Life, Untouchable Atheletes." Why don't you try / or not try ( wink wink can I have Attention T.O. ) and take 35 Vicodins have an Ambul. come to your house and not get evaluated by the League or by the Team or any body.? But yet the guy stomppin on heads will get to see shrinks and evaluated and he should be ( He felt he did nothing wrong, you can watch him fight with his coach trying to plead his case? Then give a statement saying he disgraced his Family, His Last Name For His Children, Him Self, F*CK THAT!!!) He need to be sat down for the season then see who is really disgraced.?
Also I don't want to keep hearing these guys are going full tilt , they are juiced, they are hittin and tacklin for a whole season and their emotions some times get the better of them, BLAH BLAH BLAH HORSE SH*T.
I do though think this is not an off the field act so there for no criminal charges that would open a flood gate to some where the league and players assoc. would not want to go or be able to handle.! Imagine a blown out ACL, or MCL? Kurt Warner not playing when he thinks he should or Javon Walker last year could then SUE because he didn't get the new contract and came back tore his knee up and was unable to get the new contract he might had been able to. This part would be a mess!
What happens in Vages stays in Vegas- What is said in the Locker Room Stays in the Locker room ( The Packers even have that written on the locker room wall by Vince Lombardi and it is still there ) and MOST IMPORTANT OF ALL IS WHAT HAPPENS ON THE FIELD, STAYS ON THE FIELD!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Chop blocks, crack backs, high-low block, etc.................. FOOTBALL WE LOVE IT
Only point is the guy should'nt loose his job, a years salary. Don't come with the what if's...Stitches THATS IT!!!!!!!!! The guy apologized to EVERYone possible, including a call to the stompee. Time to move on, it should'nt make anyone puke or headaches , etc.. In the big scheme its just not as bad as we make it out to be.
Titanslove wrote: I don't think he did this maliciously.
Do you even understand the word?
Aparently the guy has a history of violently overreacting, but didn't a Bears O lineman bust up someone on his own team?
The difference? TV cameras. I think they both should be in anger management counseling before they are allowed back on the field. Sure adrenelin runs high, and emotions, and it's violent, but that's the same excuse the cops give when they're caught pulling a Rodney King on someone.
It's not excusable by the courts for ordinary citizens and the same should hold for cops and athletes. You have to punish for the potential because he put Gurode in a situation that one wrong slip of the clete or twist of Gurodes head and he loses an eye, permanantly. Or maybe disfigures him for life some other way, or many other possibilities that had nothing to do with the game or playing football. It's only 30 stitches, but Haynesworth knowingly put him in a position that could have turned into the loss of his livelihood.