This guy is a phuckin idiot who won the Super Bowl becuz of the refs.
All right, yes, we suck this year, but to call our SB win "becuz of the refs" is retarded, you can start talking sh#t when any team from Ohio wins a SB, till then keep your mouth shut becuz you have no room to talk...By the way we are not calling for Cowher's head on a pole in Pittsburgh, but we are questioning his dedication this season
Maybe it's his ****head dope motorcycle crashing quarterback that cant throw and doesnt appear to think straight?
Or maybe they got rid of one of the small but significant playmaker named Antwan Randle-El?
Or maybe it's Hines Ward dropping his 15th pass of the season?
Or the fact that Willie parker is a flash in the pan?
Or the fact that your inspirational steamroller now has a mic clipped to his ear, sits in a booth somewhere and is no longer a presence in the locker room?
Or maybe the Fact that Santonio Holmes is a pass droppin buster that can't even return punts?
Ahh yeah lets blame Cowhers dedication....
How about questioning Roethlisberger's dedication? He thought his freedom of choice in riding a motorcycle was more important than his role in being the quarterback of a Championship team.
Not really, but we had a lax camp, and in the past that has hurt us.
Maybe it's his ****head dope motorcycle crashing quarterback that cant throw and doesnt appear to think straight?
That has a lot to do with 2-5. Ben had it coming, and he is paying the price for being a dumba$$ right now.
Or maybe they got rid of one of the small but significant playmaker named Antwan Randle-El?
We miss Randle El dearly. But 11 mil. bonus? C'mon GoBears, we hardly "got rid" of him. We just refused to give him the biggest contract in Steelers history.
Or maybe it's Hines Ward dropping his 15th pass of the season?
Hines has dropped some passes, but where did you come up with 15? Hines is the least of this teams problems.
Or the fact that Willie parker is a flash in the pan?
Willie also hasn't done a damn thing wrong this season. In fact, he has had some damn good games and always runs hard. The offensive line doens't play well against top competition this year. And yes, Oakland DOES have a good defense.
Or the fact that your inspirational steamroller now has a mic clipped to his ear, sits in a booth somewhere and is no longer a presence in the locker room?
Has something to do with it, but is overrated. It's not like the Steelers never crumbled with Mr. Big Mouth before (2003)
Or maybe the Fact that Santonio Holmes is a pass droppin buster that can't even return punts?
The guy is a horrible punt returner. We need WIllie Reid heathly and FAST.
Ahh yeah lets blame Cowhers dedication....
Won't hear me say that at this point.
How about questioning Roethlisberger's dedication? He thought his freedom of choice in riding a motorcycle was more important than his role in being the quarterback of a Championship team.
DawgPound wrote: I'm glad they are going crazy, I'm glad Ben is throwing picks, I'm glad they are losing.
GLAD I TELL YOU!
-- Edited by DawgPound at 10:37, 2006-10-31
Funny how some sad, pathetic fan bases have to sit at home, throw dog bones at their TV sets, cheer for 7 wins, and hope the Steelers lose.
I'm sure you are glad, turd fan. Season isn't over yet, and we still have 2 meetings.
Enjoy it while it lasts, because as you, being a stains fan knows, it won't last long.
Meanwhile your front office is a disaster, offense coaching being fired before mid-season, below-average QB play............welcome to life as a fan of the Cleveland Turds
-- Edited by Christopher Wallace at 14:16, 2006-10-31
Yeah I should rephrase the Randle El thing....I'm wasn't blaming anyone on the Steelers for his departure....11 million signing Bonus my coknballs..... His whole contract was worth 11 million. The Redskins should have just went out and gotten David Copperfield. He couldn't make 11 million disappear that quickly. That, and he would likely help Brunnell out more. I said it before though and I'll say it again. Its not Randle-Els pass catching ability, or his ability to throw the ball, or his punt return ability that made the guy worth something. It was his "the little guy works harder than everyone else" type inspiration that he lends to a team. Worth an 11 million dollar signing bonus? Hell no. Spend the bulk of that on a number one rcvr, and take the rest and pay a retarded no legged no armed 10 year old to hang around and inspire people. Or I'm sure you can get Tony Robbins to show up to every game and practice for a million a year. The point I was trying to make is that he is missed dearly...After watching Santonio Holmes drop some very important very makable 3rd downs for them.
And yes the Hines Ward thing was an exaggeration. But he hasn't been the Hines Ward of the past...A very large possession RCVR with hands of superglue that can (on occasion) stretch the field and hurt you deep. In his case, it has been his own poor play that has hurt him more, rather than Roethlisbergers sudden and complete ineptitude this season. And I understand that it likley has more to do with his hammy being bum, but the point of my post was to de-emphasize the "blame Cowher" thing that was going on.
Nice to see you back, for your latest Cowher rant. I love the animosity, the hatred, this is what the NFL is all about.
But I hear enough Cowher bashing from my own family, I don't really need your trash.
And what's funny is that, you hate Cowher, because he finally benched Kordell, the biggest embarrasment in the history of the Steelers.
It's amazing how long coach stubborn stuck with that a$$clown. And you still hate Billy for it. Unreal. Kick the guy while hes down, we need a little of that. Bill feeds off of it anyways.
GoBearsGalason wrote: Yeah I should rephrase the Randle El thing....I'm wasn't blaming anyone on his departure....The point I was trying to make is that he is missed dearly.
After watching Santonio Holmes drop some very important 3rd downs for them.
And yes the Hines Ward thing was an exaggeration. But he hasn't been the Hines Ward of the past...A very large possession RCVR with hands of superglue that can (on occasion) stretch the field and hurt you deep. In his case, it has been his own poor play that has hurt him more, rather than Roethlisbergers sudden and complete ineptitude this season.
Hines almost single handledly won the ATL and OAK games for us.
Ripping Hines is like calling Urlacher overrated. You true fans know it's not true. Trust me GoBears, aside from his hamstring problems early, Hines is the same old bada$$.
The offensive line needs to be scolded. Kendoll SImmons finally got benchedl, HArtings is old and average, and now hes hurt. We need to start looking at replacing the o-line slowly.
GoBearsGalason wrote: Burgh the guy isnt coaching any differently.
Ahh yeah lets blame Cowhers dedication....
How about questioning Roethlisberger's dedication? He thought his freedom of choice in riding a motorcycle was more important than his role in being the quarterback of a Championship team.
GoBears, have you been watching every one of the Steelers games, because I have and Cowher has lacked his trademark intensity this entire season...He isnt coaching any differently? I beg to differ as we are once again abandoning the run too early and not utilizing our big bruising back to open up the outside for Parker...Question Bens dedication? Are you kidding? Yes, the kid made a stupid decisioin during the off season, but I would never question his dedication as he came back from an apendectimy to play 2 weeks after his surgery, maybe a bad decision by Cowher to play him too soon, but definitely not a knock on the kid's dedication...The Steelers problem is a lack of intensity that is considered "Steeler Football", that's what I see, and I think that starts with Cowher...
DawgPound wrote: I'm glad they are going crazy, I'm glad Ben is throwing picks, I'm glad they are losing.
GLAD I TELL YOU!
-- Edited by DawgPound at 10:37, 2006-10-31
Funny how some sad, pathetic fan bases have to sit at home, throw dog bones at their TV sets, cheer for 7 wins, and hope the Steelers lose.
I'm sure you are glad, turd fan. Season isn't over yet, and we still have 2 meetings.
Enjoy it while it lasts, because as you, being a stains fan knows, it won't last long.
Meanwhile your front office is a disaster, offense coaching being fired before mid-season, below-average QB play............welcome to life as a fan of the Cleveland Turds
-- Edited by Christopher Wallace at 14:16, 2006-10-31
Sure I revel in the Steelers misfortune and that is a nice signature you have at the bottom of your posts (in case you think you're any better).
And yes we suck and yes WE beat the Raiders, I mean what are the expectations?, its not like we're the defending Super Bowl champs or anything.
GoBears, have you been watching every one of the Steelers games, because I have and Cowher has lacked his trademark intensity this entire season...He isnt coaching any differently? I beg to differ as we are once again abandoning the run too early and not utilizing our big bruising back to open up the outside for Parker...Question Bens dedication? Are you kidding? Yes, the kid made a stupid decisioin during the off season, but I would never question his dedication as he came back from an apendectimy to play 2 weeks after his surgery, maybe a bad decision by Cowher to play him too soon, but definitely not a knock on the kid's dedication...The Steelers problem is a lack of intensity that is considered "Steeler Football", that's what I see, and I think that starts with Cowher...
It's not like Cowher was really intense last season. He isn't coaching much differently at all:
Horrible clock management has been a staple of the Cowher trademark, and he has yet to disapoint in this area so far.
Stubborn decisions like insisting Ben play, Ricardo and Santonio return punts, and giving Kendoll may too much time to play RG.
On the good side:
Larry Foote is playing outstanding. Guys like him are products of Cowher and his ability to raise talent.
Ryan Clark is also playing great. Looks a hell of a lot better than he did for WASH. Has to be Cowher rubbing off on him.
Brett Kiesel has been great. Another Cowher product.
Again, Bill has his strenths and weaknesses. Deal with it.
Sure I revel in the Steelers misfortune and that is a nice signature you have at the bottom of your posts (in case you think you're any better).
And yes we suck and yes WE beat the Raiders, I mean what are the expectations?, its not like we're the defending Super Bowl champs or anything.
Difference is you always root for our misfortune, and we always bank on yours.
Oakland is getting better on each week, and don't be suprised if that defensive unit ends up being one of the best in the league before you know it.
My sig line comes from a friend of my pops who is from Erie PA. It's a reminder for me to always always always kick the browns when they're down, because for a long time it wasn't the way it is now. But that's ok, things arent going to change anytime soon.
-- Edited by Christopher Wallace at 15:33, 2006-10-31
I love the Browns-Steelers rivalry (in my mind, there are 3 games each year, the 2 between Browns-Steelers and the Ohio State-Michigan game) and I always try to watch the game with Steelers fans so we can enjoy the game properly (after all, this isn't golf).
I don't feel sorry for Steelers fans, I don't feel sorry for any fans - until you've lived and died with the Browns, its hard to have sympathy for any other team's fans. But that doesn't mean I root for misfortune, I'm all too familiar with what that feels like to wish it upon anyone, I focus my attention on rooting for my team (hence, my sig)
About things changing, don't be too sure beyond this season. If Cowher leaves, much of the team's identity might as well (ala Redskins after Gibbs.. the first time). If that's coupled with a losing season...
Again, Bill has his strenths and weaknesses. Deal with it.
No sh#t genius, great observation, coaches have strengths and weaknesses...I hate to argue with a fellow steelers fan, but if you have been watching the games this season I dont know how you cant see the difference from last season...Cowher isnt coaching differently? Ok, Cowher is straying from the power rushing game that was our bread and butter for the last two seasons, Ben is averaging 30 passing attempts per game this season, the steelers have 219 pass attempts to 182 rushing attempts (by running backs), that comes out to 54.5% pass to 45.5% run, do you see a difference from last season where Ben averaged about 25 pass attempts per game, and the pass to run percetage was closer to 40-60...Are you f#cking blind?
I don't feel sorry for the Pittsburgh fans. The Steelers are a perennial power and last year capped it off with a championship. Certainly, to have fallen this far is a disappointment to them and something of a surprise, but that has been something of a trend lately in the NFL.
As far as Roethlisberger goes, I don't think the responsibility falls entirely on Cowher's shoulders, although he deserves a lion's share of the knocks on this one. But it is the organization that is at fault, not just the coach. Surely someone up the chain of command, including the owner, could step in and stop the travesty that is the treatment of the quarterback. And just what on earth is the team doctor for if he can't say "No, Bill, Ben can't start a game ten days after an appendectomy no matter how fast a healer he claims to be. And yes, concussions are serious business."?
Again, Bill has his strenths and weaknesses. Deal with it.
No sh#t genius, great observation, coaches have strengths and weaknesses...I hate to argue with a fellow steelers fan, but if you have been watching the games this season I dont know how you cant see the difference from last season...Cowher isnt coaching differently? Ok, Cowher is straying from the power rushing game that was our bread and butter for the last two seasons, Ben is averaging 30 passing attempts per game this season, the steelers have 219 pass attempts to 182 rushing attempts (by running backs), that comes out to 54.5% pass to 45.5% run, do you see a difference from last season where Ben averaged about 25 pass attempts per game, and the pass to run percetage was closer to 40-60...Are you f#cking blind?
My opinion, as an outsider is this...
I think the Steelers are throwing more out of necessisty. Behind Willie Parker, who is there at RB? Davenport? Haynes? Staley? 3 guys that have started a combined 13 games in the last 4 years and probably don't have a combined 1000 yds in that stretch. Not only that, they've only combined for probably 150 yds so far this season. That wouldn't inspire me to run more. The Bus was a solid change up for Parker.
But then, you look at WR, and they have at least 3 (if not 4) guys playing pretty good. Ward, Washington, Wilson, and Holmes have so far put up decent numbers, Ward getting the bulk. If I had WRs like this, and RBs like that (behind Parker) I would be throwing more too. The difference is, as you said, Big Ben is averaging 30 att. per game, and is on pace to more than double his career high in attempts. He's not used to throwing this much. Add that to his long injury list, and you will most definantly get sub-standard play at QB.
I don't blame Cowher, I blame managment for not bringing in a solid #2 RB to take pressure off the passing game and Willie Parker. Big Ben has to take some blame for his offseason activities as well. Just my 2 cents though.
Again, Bill has his strenths and weaknesses. Deal with it.
No sh#t genius, great observation, coaches have strengths and weaknesses...I hate to argue with a fellow steelers fan, but if you have been watching the games this season I dont know how you cant see the difference from last season...Cowher isnt coaching differently? Ok, Cowher is straying from the power rushing game that was our bread and butter for the last two seasons, Ben is averaging 30 passing attempts per game this season, the steelers have 219 pass attempts to 182 rushing attempts (by running backs), that comes out to 54.5% pass to 45.5% run, do you see a difference from last season where Ben averaged about 25 pass attempts per game, and the pass to run percetage was closer to 40-60...Are you f#cking blind?
My opinion, as an outsider is this...
I think the Steelers are throwing more out of necessisty. Behind Willie Parker, who is there at RB? Davenport? Haynes? Staley? 3 guys that have started a combined 13 games in the last 4 years and probably don't have a combined 1000 yds in that stretch. Not only that, they've only combined for probably 150 yds so far this season. That wouldn't inspire me to run more. The Bus was a solid change up for Parker.
But then, you look at WR, and they have at least 3 (if not 4) guys playing pretty good. Ward, Washington, Wilson, and Holmes have so far put up decent numbers, Ward getting the bulk. If I had WRs like this, and RBs like that (behind Parker) I would be throwing more too. The difference is, as you said, Big Ben is averaging 30 att. per game, and is on pace to more than double his career high in attempts. He's not used to throwing this much. Add that to his long injury list, and you will most definantly get sub-standard play at QB.
I don't blame Cowher, I blame managment for not bringing in a solid #2 RB to take pressure off the passing game and Willie Parker. Big Ben has to take some blame for his offseason activities as well. Just my 2 cents though.
Digger,
Great points. Something is definiltey off with the Steelers this year. Blame needs to be placed just about everywhere except the D. They'd played relatively well given some injuries, etc. The QB play of Big ben has really been hideous barring the one good game. He should have been rested far more by the coaching staff. It's painfully obvious that everything from the cycle accident to the concussion is having a negative impact. The running game with Parker has actually been a bright spot. Granted, they have has a few struggles with short yardage, but no more or less than many other decent teams. They've actually seemed to go away from the run when it's successful. I've watch a number of PIT games this year having a hadnful of freinds from the area, and they scream at the TV "WHY ARE WE NOT STILL RUNNING THE DAM BALL!!!" I balme that on Cowher.
To me, as objective as possible, the chief blame falls on Cowher. With the cat being let out of the bag that he's probably moving on, I bet the team loast some respect. Also, I think given the ring, he may not be as "into it". I sense a good coach just going through the motions. It's kind of like being a lame duck I think... The hunger on the team just isn't there top to bottom. Other than Troy P...that kid brings it.
Ben has definately gotten his head knocked around lately and he isn't all that bright to begin with. The guy was never an above average qb even when they were winning. The running game would just kill clock and Ben would mix in a pass here and there and the D would dominate. The Steelers can't play smashmouth anymore and Ben seems to be at a point where people have to remind him of his name because he is so loopy. The guy looks fawked in the head and even though I don't like him I don't want to see him seriously injured.
Speaking of Cowher he does sort of give off a ' I have my ring I don't give a sh*t ' vibe. I don't see a lot of fire and intensity in him anymore. Just a lot of 'aw shucks' kind of bullsh*t like he's really just thinking about going fishing or something. I didn't see the Oakland game but I hope Cowher was spitten pissed. Losing to Oakland is pretty low. Steeler fans know that. Cleveland even beat Oakland.
I would be lying if I didn't admit to taking great pleasure in the Steelers failures this season. The icing on the cake is that they fell so hard and fast after just winning a Superbowl with basically the same guys. When I saw they lost to Oakland I was sure that they had serious problems. I can't wait to play those fawks twice and rub salt in that wound.
GoBearsGalason wrote: Yeah I should rephrase the Randle El thing....I'm wasn't blaming anyone on his departure....The point I was trying to make is that he is missed dearly.
After watching Santonio Holmes drop some very important 3rd downs for them.
And yes the Hines Ward thing was an exaggeration. But he hasn't been the Hines Ward of the past...A very large possession RCVR with hands of superglue that can (on occasion) stretch the field and hurt you deep. In his case, it has been his own poor play that has hurt him more, rather than Roethlisbergers sudden and complete ineptitude this season.
Hines almost single handledly won the ATL and OAK games for us.
Ripping Hines is like calling Urlacher overrated. You true fans know it's not true. Trust me GoBears, aside from his hamstring problems early, Hines is the same old bada$$.
The offensive line needs to be scolded. Kendoll SImmons finally got benchedl, HArtings is old and average, and now hes hurt. We need to start looking at replacing the o-line slowly.
Yeah I agree....but thats why you are 2-5. He's taken a few of those games off.
Want to see a sure fire sign that it isn't Cowhers fault.
When he comes out in public and says its all his fault.
http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/9768380
How many times have you seen that before. He's being a stand up guy, but privately I'm betting that Roethlisberger's name has become a swear word in his house.
Ben, On Behalf of the City of Pittsburgh....Merry Christmas
Being a Bucs fan, I can definately empathize with Steelers fans. After they won the super bowl in the 02 season, 03 and 04 made the Bucs the only team to have two losing seasons back to back after a SB win, therefore the worst collapse in NFL history. Last year was a fluke as they got lucky.
You think they're screaming for Cowher's head? Go to the Bucs boards, the fans are ready to draw and quarter Chuckie.
burgh, there's no question that your team's most recent lombardi trophy has zebra stripes all over it. i'm not saying the 'hawks would've won the game if the calls went the way they should, but those officiating mistakes definitely impacted the game in a way that hurt the 'hawks, for sure. lots of games are impacted by terrible refereeing. your super bowl win happens to be one of them. there's no arguing that.
if you can't admit that, you're in total denial. get over it, and give us all a big fat hairy break. no need to get all pissy-bitched about it when someone mentions it.
it's embarrassing to see a steeler fan like yourself act like a seven year old in response: resorting to calling OHIOFOOTBALL "retarded", and mocking the ohio teams for not winning any? that's the best you can do? WHAT does it have to do with the point he was trying to make? that's MAYBE an effective comeback if you're seven.
and btw, as a pennsylvanian, i WANTED the steelers to win. but for god's sake, not THAT way.
as for the steeler's consistent dominance in recent years, be real. recent records suggest otherwise:
1998 7 9 0 3rd AFC Central 1999 6 10 0 4th AFC Central 2000 9 7 0 3rd AFC Central
2003 6 10 0 3rd AFC North
four losing seasons since '98? consistent dominance? one and the same? no way.
but do i feel bad for "Feelers" fans? ƒuck no. that's a pretty gaudy set of jewelry they've got there.
i DO feel bad for the friends of people who can't get their heads out of a$$es long enough to figure out that their lives shouldn't hinge on the fortunes or misfortunes of their football teams. what ƒucking BORES you are!!! you're lucky your friends put up with you!!!
DawgPound wrote: I'm glad they are going crazy, I'm glad Ben is throwing picks, I'm glad they are losing.
GLAD I TELL YOU!
-- Edited by DawgPound at 10:37, 2006-10-31
Funny how some sad, pathetic fan bases have to sit at home, throw dog bones at their TV sets, cheer for 7 wins, and hope the Steelers lose.
I'm sure you are glad, turd fan. Season isn't over yet, and we still have 2 meetings.
Enjoy it while it lasts, because as you, being a stains fan knows, it won't last long.
Meanwhile your front office is a disaster, offense coaching being fired before mid-season, below-average QB play............welcome to life as a fan of the Cleveland Turds
-- Edited by Christopher Wallace at 14:16, 2006-10-31
Well, I am a Patriots fan, so I think I can stand here on my pile of Lombardi's and say: The Steelers suck a$$. The 2005 run was a fluke, you have had a single coach for like 13 seasons, and all he has ever done was get stomped in home-field AFC Championship games.
That is sad... so the whole team got on the "win one for Bettis" dope-high, and turned a crappy season in which they sneaked into the play-offs into a win.
Good for you, hope you enjoyed the parade, as it won't be happening again anytime soon.
Bettis was their "heart & soul", and the QB was never that good, but is downright awful after getting his mellon bashed a few times real good.
I had to hear from you and that other moron Burgh1979 that they were going to be "even better", that the loss of Bettis was actually a good thing, and that the Steelers were going to repeat.
How is that working out for you?
The Steelers suck, and when I think about how badly they suck, I get all warm and fuzzy inside. I was happy when they won, because it meant that Manning didn't, but now.... you suck, and that is funny.
PS- My favorite game from the Dynasty years was that 42 points we hung on you at home in the AFC game after you went 15-1.
You know the thing I blame the most for the steeler's misfortunes, even more than rushing Big Ben back early is the associated play calling. Last year throughout the playoffs we all heard about the "genious" play calling of Whisenhunt. Why? Because he switched up the game plan and did a lot more PAP and trickery when everyone was dialed in on the running game that had been relatively succesful. Now Whisenhunt is continuing that kind of play calling in the regular season with a QB coming back from multiple injuries - it's just retarded.
Not to mention the sloppy line play and the fact that we've got two backups starting now with Hartings and Simmons out. So far I think Parker's running stats are totally inflated. He gets stuffed in the backfield more often than gaining yards, but is so fast that he makes the most out of the few times that the line has done a good job blocking. I think the coaches really don't believe they CAN run the ball because they're getting stuffed so often.
Add all of this together and a QB that has only had two good games (ATL and KC) where he actually had some time off from not being injured - this is a team that is just missing it's offensive identity. Coaches don't think they can run so they throw the reigns on a QB that hasn't had this kind of responsibility before and is more than just a lil banged up - really what did you expect?
I'm not really sold on them sucking, they just need to get they're play calling in order. Make some simple reads for Mr. Big Bang and more hand offs before calling PAP on the first drive of the game. Big Ben needs to know that he doesn't have to win the game himself, and Okobi and Kemoeatu (who will probably end up playing better than Kendal Simmons) need to get settled in on that line.
you're lucky your friends put up with you!!! 
